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August 21, 2012

The Song of the 144,000

The Lamb and the 144,000

(Rev 14:1 NIV) Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.
(Rev 14:2 NIV) And I heard a sound from heaven like the roar of rushing waters and like a loud peal of thunder. The sound I heard was like that of harpists playing their harps.
(Rev 14:3 NIV) And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.
(Rev 14:4 NIV) These are those who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as firstfruits to God and the Lamb.
(Rev 14:5 NIV) No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

NOTE: Please bear with the poor English of the author.

As the author understands it, there is no connection contextually between this vision and the immediate preceding one – the vision of the beast which has two horns like a lamb and which speaks like a dragon, nor of the vision of the beast with 7 heads and 10 horns.

Here, we will see the Lamb with the 144,000 Israelites that had already been sealed up with His name and His Father’s name on their foreheads. From what time setting this sealing was? It was on the Sixth Seal!

In verse 3, a new song was mentioned but its wordings are not written. Some people say this new song is the new song sung by the 4 Living Creatures and the 24 Elders in Revelation 5:9-10. What is the significance if we will accept that? Here is their song:

(Rev 5:9 NIV)  And they sang a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.
(Rev 5:10 NIV)  You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

Let’s envisage that this song is part of this vision. Look at the first part of verse 9 – the underlined one. It is giving us a hint that this subsection is a (re)opening of a seal by our Lord Yeshua. And, it could be the Sixth Seal.

(Rev 14:3 NIV)  And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

No one could learn this song except the 144,000 and they could have learned this song from the 4 Living Creatures and the 24 Elders who are just in front of them.

In view of the above statements, the last sentence in this verse could be a visionally time related information. No one would be able to sing that song before the Sixth Seal except, of course, before the First Seal. That means, no seal of the scroll would be reopened except the seals that these 144,000 inhabit which are the sixth and the seventh seals.

The part of the book of Revelation this vision belongs to is a very vague section. It spans from the 1st verse of chapter 14 up to the last verse of chapter 16. If we will consider the Vision of the Song of the 144,000 to be an indication that it is a reopening of the 6th Seal (different perspective), then, the following visions after it could be part of the 6th or of the 7th Seal. Let’s study the other subsections of this part of the book (chapter 14 to chapter16) and compare them to the Seals and Trumpets.

The Messages of the Three Angels

The First Angel

(Rev 14:6 NIV) Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth — to every nation, tribe, language and people.
(Rev 14:7 NIV) He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

Notice verse 7 …Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.” These are symbolic hints. Compare them with the “first part” of the Trumpets (Revelation 8:7-12), the events that followed the sealing of the 144,000 Israelites.

1st Trumpet: earth (Rev 8:7)
2nd Trumpet: sea (Rev 8:8-9)
3rd Trumpet: rivers, springs, or fountains of waters (Rev 8:10-11)
4th Trumpet: heaven (Rev 8:12)

Have you noticed that the correlation now has moved from the Sixth Seal to the Seventh Seal? All the Trumpets are what constitutes the 7th Seal.

The Second Angel

(Rev 14:8 NIV) A second angel followed and said, “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great, which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”

Who is responsible for the prostitute’s downfall?

(Rev 17:16 NIV) The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

That is clear. Now read this verse:

(Rev 17:12 KJV)  And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

This verse tells that the ten kings (horns) together with the beast will have authority for one hour. This one hour could be the one hour mentioned in Rev 18:10, 17, and 19 about the judgment and destruction of Babylon the Great. The literal duration of this time is too short for those events. If one will expand this one hour using the 360-day prophetic year, 360 divided by 24, the result will be 15 days. That is still a very short time. Look at this passage:

(Rev 17:9 NIV)  “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.
(Rev 17:10 NIV)  They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while.

Aren’t these shortness of time a very strong indication that when the angel of Rev 14:8 announces “Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great…” it also meant the beast has just come out recently? Notice here also that at this time of Babylon’s fall, the false prophet has not yet arrived because the ten horns of the beast are still ten (see Daniel 7:8, 20 and 24).

Let’s now find the location of the coming out of the beast from the Trumpets. We are now somewhere on the first part of the Trumpets (from the 1st to the 4th Trumpet). You will see no mention of the beast here and that is because the symbolism used here is different. The imagery (not image) of beasts in Daniel and here in Revelation is one kind of symbolism used to represent kingdoms or empires. The other imagery used to also represent kingdom or empire is “mountain.” And you will find that on the Second Trumpet:

(Rev 8:8 KJV)  And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

The Third Angel

Rev 14:9-13 LITV
(9)  And a third angel followed them, saying in a great voice, If anyone worships the beast and its image, and receives a mark on his forehead, or in his hand,
(10)  he also shall drink of the wine of the anger of God having been mixed undiluted in the cup of His wrath. And he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy angels and before the Lamb.
(11)  And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever. And those worshiping the beast and its image have no rest night and day, even if anyone receives the mark of its name.
(12)  Here is the patience of the saints; here are the ones keeping the commands of God, and the faith of Jesus.
(13)  And I heard a voice out of Heaven saying to me, Write: Blessed are the dead, the ones dying in the Lord from now. Yes, says the Spirit, they shall rest from their labors, and their works follow with them.

The warnings of the third angel in verses 9 give us a hint that the false prophet has already arrived at the world scene. Compare it with the Seals/Trumpets:

Rev 8:10-12 KJV
(10)  And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
(11)  And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.
(12)  And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Doesn’t a star denote a saint or a prophet (Dan 12:3)? Isn’t our Lord Yeshua the Light or the Lamp of the world? Aren’t the truths of God and His Gospels the Living Water that runs through these rivers and springs of water (see John 4:14, 7:38)? Doesn’t Rev 8:10 says there will be a saint or a prophet who will act like our Messiah and will strongly influence the world’s religious teachings? This prophet is a false one or will become one. Isn’t this the False Prophet we are referring to that has already arrived in the Message of the 3rd Angel? He will twist the teachings and the truths of our Lord God and he will cause a religious persecution (Rev 14:12-13). This persecution is also mentioned in Rev 13:10 and 15.

Now here’s a question that must be considered carefully. It is the reason why the 4th Trumpet is included in the correlation. Where does the “final” persecution belong?

1) In the 3rd Trumpet where there’s a phrase that says “many people died” or
2) In the 4th Trumpet where the symbolic darkening of the sun, the moon, and the stars by a third occurs.

This question, together with the fact that the receiving of the mark of the beast was mentioned in Rev 14 verses 9 and 11 are the reasons why we are not going to limit the timeframe of this “Message of the Third Angel” to the 3rd Trumpet only. As for me, this particular question can be answered by understanding other parts of Revelation as well. And some of these parts are discussed in the article from where this post was taken: Revelation and Its Mysteries. Let’s continue with the other visions.

The Two Harvests

(Rev 14:20 ESV) And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood flowed from the winepress, as high as a horse’s bridle, for 1,600 stadia.

1600 stadia represents the symbolic quantity of blood of those slain at the winepress of the wrath of God. Let’s do some “experimental” computations with this number. A verse (Revelation 9:15) from the Sixth Trumpet says that a third of men were to be killed. So, let’s multiply the number 1600 by 3 and we’ll get 4800. Divide 4800 by 4 (the number of the angels of Revelation 9:15) and we’ll have 1200 stadia. If these 4 angels are the same angels mentioned in the Sixth Seal, then each of them will have 1200 stadia. Does that make sense in view of the symbolic numbers used in the sealing of the 12000 times 12 people of God? As for the author, it does make sense. I believe that the treading of the winepress of the wrath of God here (Revelation 14:20) and the killing of a third of men in the 6th Trumpet (Revelation 9:15) depict the same event with different perspectives. This is corroborated by the explanation of the topic The Myriads of Myriads Troops in the said article.

Notice that a verse in our timeline reference (Seals/Trumpets), Rev 9:18, says that this one third of men were to be killed by the plagues fire, smoke, and brimstone. Are these the FIRST three plagues?

The Seven Last Plague

Some say that these seven last plagues belong to the Seventh Trumpet. The following verse from the Sixth Plague (itself) will prove that wrong.

(Rev 16:15 LITV)  Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is the one watching and keeping his garments, that he does not walk naked, and they may see his shame.

Our Lord Yeshua has not yet arrived at this point in time! Let’s have this verse as our marker which we will call “Marker-A”. According to 1 Thess 4:16 – 17 and 1 Cor 15:51 – 52, the Lord’s coming will be AFTER the 7th Trumpet. So, this means that all the preceding plagues including this 6th Plague up to Marker-A are all BEFORE the 7th Trumpet. And the 7th Trumpet is part of our timeline reference.

Maybe, a question similar to the following will arise. If that is the case, can the plagues and events before Marker-A be referenced from any trumpet earlier than the 7th one? Read this verse from the Sixth Trumpet about the two witnesses.

(Rev 11:6 LITV) These have the authority to shut up the heaven, that no rain may rain in the days of their prophecy. And they have authority over the waters, to turn them into blood, and to strike the earth with every plague, as often as they desire.

Now, read and compare these verses:

(Rev 16:3 LITV) And the second angel poured out his bowl onto the sea. And it became blood, as of a dead one, and every soul of life died in the sea.
(Rev 16:4 LITV) And the third angel poured out his bowl onto the rivers, and onto the springs of the waters; and it became blood.

…to strike the earth with every plague, as often as they desire. This could mean to include other plagues other than the Last Plagues and/or the frequency of a particular plague or plagues to be inflicted.

Here’s another hint that the Two Witnesses will be used by God in pouring out some of the Seven Last Plagues if not all.

(Rev 15:5 ISV)  After these things I looked, and the temple of the tent of witness in heaven was open!
(Rev 15:6 ISV)  The seven angels with the seven plagues came out of the temple wearing clean, shining linen with gold belts around their waists.

Remember the three plagues of the 2 myriads of myriads troops? These are not part of the Seven Last Plagues. If there are last plagues, there must be first plague(s).

The Song of the 144,000 is a very great song – it is a key to a part of a secret knowledge of the structure of the book of Revelation – the hardest to understand book of the Bible. The reader can know more of the structure of Revelation by visiting the link below. There are also other deep mysteries of Revelation that can be known in the article.

Revelation and its Mysteries

WISDOM AND PRAISE BELONG TO GOD AND TO THE LORD YESHUA

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August 17, 2012

The Two Hundred Million Man Army

(Rev 9:16 LITV) And the number of the armies of the cavalry was two myriads of myriads; and I heard their number.
(Rev 9:17 ASV)  And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates as of fire and of hyacinth and of brimstone: and the heads of lions; and out of their mouths proceedeth fire and smoke and brimstone.

Who are these people? What we have about them are (a) their size that was only heard by John and (b) the color “jacinth” which is a hint. Let’s deal first with their size.

Some bible translators translate their size as “two hundred million,” that is two ten thousand times ten thousand. Which is correct “two myriads of myriads” or “two hundred million”? Their size, as for me, could only be expressed as either two groups of people or a literal single group of 200,000,000 people because of the number “two.” It will help if we knew who these people are.

What is this color hyacinth or jacinth in Rev 9:17?

Strong’s Greek Dictionary
G5191
ὑακιìνθινος
huakinthinos
hoo-ak-in’-thee-nos
From G5192; “hyacinthine” or “jacinthine”, that is, deep blue: – jacinth.

This word as you can see is from another word:

Strong’s Greek Dictionary
G5192
ὑαìκινθος
huakinthos
hoo-ak’-in-thos
Of uncertain derivation; the “hyacinth” or “jacinth”, that is, some gem of a deep blue color, probably the zirkon: – jacinth.

In the vision of the New Jerusalem in chapter 21 of Revelation, it is written:

(Rev 21:19 ASV)  The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, chalcedony; the fourth, emerald;
(Rev 21:20 ASV)  the fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolite; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, topaz; the tenth, chrysoprase; the eleventh, jacinth; the twelfth, amethyst.

In the 11th foundation you will find the gem jacinth numbered G5192 in Strong’s Greek Dictionary (the second word defined above). It is in the 11th foundation. Now let’s go to chapter 7 of this book and find the corresponding name of the tribe of Israel with the same ordinal number – 11th.

(Rev 7:4 ASV)  And I heard the number of them that were sealed, a hundred and forty and four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel:
(Rev 7:5 ASV)  Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand: Of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Gad twelve thousand;
(Rev 7:6 ASV)  Of the tribe of Asher twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Naphtali twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Manasseh twelve thousand;
(Rev 7:7 ASV)  Of the tribe of Simeon twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Levi twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Issachar twelve thousand;
(Rev 7:8 ASV)  Of the tribe of Zebulun twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Joseph twelve thousand; Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

Did you find it? We know that this tribe is divided further into two groups or tribes – Ephraim and Manasseh. Are they the two groups of (myriad of myriads) troops God is using to unleash the (first?) three plagues?

NOTE: This post is just a custom excerpt. The reader might want to read more about these troops. Read the rest of this topic (The Two Hundred Million Man Army) in the article where it is included. Also, the reader will understand this topic better if the article will be read from the beginning. Here’s the link:

Revelation And Its Mysteries

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August 6, 2012

The 4 Living Creatures And The 24 Elders

Who or what are these 4 Living Creatures and the 24 Elders? Their identities are a very very deep mystery of Revelation. One must go through the other mysteries of Revelation and of the Bible before he/she can reach the “place” of these two great groups of entities. Only God through our Lord Yeshua can unlock these other mysteries for us. Our Lord Yeshua, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge, holds the key to these mysteries. What he opens no one can shut, and what he shuts no one can open.

This post is just a part of an article entitled Revelation and Its Mysteries. To understand their identities better, one must read also the topics “The Divisions of Revelation,” “The Parallelism Between The Trumpets and The Last Plagues” (not time related), and the “Parallelisms Based On The Creation Days” (not time related) in the said article.

(Rev 4:9 KJV)  And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
(Rev 4:10 KJV)  The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
(Rev 4:11 KJV)  Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Verses 9 and 10 seem to tell that the 4 Living Creatures and the 24 Elders are symbolically related to each other. If we will multiply the 6 wings of the 4 Living Creatures by their number, the result will be 24 – the number of the 24 Elders. Who or what do these two groups of entities which are related to each other represent or personify? The author doesn’t know anyone or anything that could conform to their attributes except – the Letters to the churches, the Seals, the Trumpets, and the Last Plagues and the parallelisms between the 1st 6 parts of them. This “theory” is very strong. Let the initials L, S, T, LP represent the Letters to the churches, the Seals, the Trumpets, and the Last Plagues respectively.
– The 4 individual Living Creatures personify the L, S, T, LP. Their wings seem to represent the 1st 6 parts of the L, S, T, LP.
– The 24 Elders represent the 1st 6 parts of the L, S, T, LP as a whole. It’s only up to their 6th parts maybe because there are only six creation days where the parallelisms between the L, S, T, LP are based.

They have different sets of attributes. In the topic “Parallelisms Based On The Creation Days” (this is a very interesting topic), the parallelisms between the L, S, T, LP are based on the creation days. How could this thing be met? The above verses Rev 4:9-11 are hints and clues about these two groups of entities. As I understand it, these verses could be interpreted as thus, whenever a parallelism between the L, S, T, LP occurs a praise that is also a hint is offered by the 24 Elders (both of them are affected by the parallelism) to God and that hint is in verse 11 that says God created all things and by His will or for His pleasure are all things existed and were created.

Remember the “new song”? In Revelation 5:8-10, the 4 Living Creatures and the 24 Elders sang the “new song” before the opening of the Seals and in the re-opening of the 6th Seal (Rev 14:1-5) they were included in the vision. Why would they be the ones singing that song (Revelation 5:8-10) and why would they be included in the vision of “The Lamb and the 144,000” (Rev 14:1-5)? Notice also that it is one of the 4 Living Creatures who gave to the 7 angels  the seven golden bowls filled with the wrath of God in Revelation 15:7.

The reader will see the other proofs as he go along.

The L, S, T, LP as the 4 Living Creatures:

(Rev 4:6 ISV)  In front of the throne was something like a sea of glass as clear as crystal. In the center of the throne and on each side of the throne were four living creatures full of eyes in front and in back.
(Rev 4:7 ISV)  The first living creature was like a lion, the second living creature was like an ox, the third living creature had a face like a human, and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle.
(Rev 4:8 ISV)  Each of the four living creatures had six wings and were full of eyes inside and out. Without stopping day or night they were saying, “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, who is, and who is coming.”

“Eyes” figuratively means knowledge, mental and spiritual faculties. See Strong’s and BDB’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries. In verse 6, it says that these 4 living creatures are full of eyes. These “eyes” could mean the individual knowledge and information (not in parallel) they carry to themselves from their 1st parts up to their 6th or maybe, up to their 7th parts. The “eyes” in their wings (verse 8), could refer to the knowledge and information that are in parallel between them from their 1st parts up to their 6th parts. In verse 7, they were individually likened to a lion, an ox, face like a man and a flying eagle and these could refer to the L, S, T, LP respectively. The author does not see any indication how the order of assigning should be done, so, the order of their appearance – which came first – will be the one that will be used here.

1st Living Creature – The Letters to the Churches – Lion

Our Lord Yeshua, in His letters to the churches commends the angels of the good works in their corresponding churches. He also corrects them and gives warnings against any wrong doings. Now, what does the lion-like attribute of the Lord has to do with the Letters to the Churches?

(Hos 5:14 ASV)  For I will be unto Ephraim as a lion, and as a young lion to the house of Judah: I, even I, will tear and go away; I will carry off, and there shall be none to deliver.
(Hos 5:15 ASV)  I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly.

(Job 10:15 NIV)  If I am guilty—woe to me! Even if I am innocent, I cannot lift my head, for I am full of shame and drowned in my affliction.
(Job 10:16 NIV)  If I hold my head high, you stalk me like a lion and again display your awesome power against me.

You will see in the contexts of these passages that the Lord God is like a lion when he rebukes and disciplines His own people. That’s exactly what the Lord Yeshua will do if His admonitions and warnings to the angels of the churches are not heeded. He will be like a lion to them.

What about the following verse?

(Rev 5:5 KJV)  And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

Should the lion-like attribute of the Lord Yeshua be assigned to the Seals because of this verse? As for me, it should be assigned to the Letters to the Churches because it’s the right order and reading the next verses…

Rev 5:6-9 KJV
(6)  And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
(7)  And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
(8)  And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
(9)  And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

…the lamb attribute of the Lord Yeshua is the one who opened the book and loosen the seven seals thereof. Read Revelation chapter 6 up to chapter 8.

2nd Living Creature – The Seals – Ox

The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David opens the Seals as a lamb and not as a lion. Even in the re-opening of the 6th Seal, it is the imagery of the Lamb that is there.

(Rev 6:5 ASV)  And when he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, Come. And I saw, and behold, a black horse; and he that sat thereon had a balance in his hand.
(Rev 6:6 ASV)  And I heard as it were a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, A measure of wheat for a shilling, and three measures of barley for a shilling; and the oil and the wine hurt thou not.

This passage denotes scarcity of food but there’s another thing in here. In Rev 5:6 it says that the Lamb is in the midst of the 4 Living Creatures, so it could be His voice that came out in verse 6 above. Now, what is common between a lamb, wheat, barley, wine, oil, and an ox? All of them can be an offering to God. See Exodus 29:40 and Ezekiel 45:13.

In the 5th Seal, the symbolic souls of those who had been slain for the word of God are portrayed as being under the altar where offerings are made.

In light of these things we can now tell who the rider on the white horse is in the 1st Seal. It is the Lord Yeshua. He is the Passover Lamb that was slaughtered as an offering to redeem us from our sins. The verse says:
– He had a bow. What about the arrow? Visit the article – The Olivet Prophecy
– He was given a crown – a crown of thorns.
– He came out conquering, and to conquer.

(Rev 5:5 ESV)  And one of the elders said to me, “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.”

(Rev 5:9 ESV)  And they sang a new song, saying, “Worthy are you to take the scroll and to open its seals, for you were slain, and by your blood you ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation

If we will compare these two verses, it seems that the words “conquered” (verse 5) and “slain” (verse 9) are synonymous to each other contextually.

Some bible translations render the word “conquered” in verse 5 as “prevailed”.

3rd Living Creature – The Trumpets – Face like a Man

In the 5th Trumpet, there’s a verse that describe a quality of the symbolic Locust Army – their faces like the faces of men (Rev 9:7).

A bigger aspect of the phrase “face like a man” is not easily seen in the Trumpets because we are not aware of it. We recognize a man through his face. Even if we haven’t met a certain man before, we could recognize him through a picture or a sketch of his face, but what really makes us recognize him is the collection of information regarding the qualities of his eyes, nose, lips, etc. It is this collection of information concerning the qualities of a man or group of men that is referred to as a bigger aspect of “face like a man” and these things can be found in the Trumpets (2nd part). Read the descriptions of the Locust Army with their King in the 5th Trumpet; The Two Myriads of Myriads Troops and the Two Witnesses in the 6th Trumpet.

What about this verse?

(Rev 8:13 HNV)  I saw, and I heard an eagle, flying in mid heaven, saying with a loud voice, “Woe! Woe! Woe for those who dwell on the earth, because of the other voices of the trumpets of the three angels, who are yet to sound!”

This is the only instance of a “flying eagle” in the Trumpets, but if you will look at it closely, you will see that it’s not part of any Trumpet, is it? As for me, it’s part of the 7th Seal, speaking about the 5th, 6th and the 7th Trumpet.

4th Living Creature – The Last Plagues – Flying Eagle

One of the things that an eagle’s wings symbolize is power as in Jeremiah 48:40 and Ezekiel 17:3, 7. According to the parallelisms based on Day 5, birds can represent God’s people. With these things in mind, it can be stated that a flying eagle means God’s people or holy people while using their power. Can the reader still remember what is said in the topic “The Seven Last Plagues” under the Explanation of the Fourth Section in The Divisions of Revelation? It is pointed out there that the Two Witnesses are the ones God will use in pouring out some of the Seven Last Plagues. These two witnesses are God’s people – the holy people. They can be represented by a bird, an eagle, and their power – the wings of an eagle. What is stated there supports what is being said here and vice versa. They confirm each other.

The L, S, T, LP as the 24 Elders:

The entire L, S, T, LP except their 7th parts could be what these 24 Elders personify. Some people call the assembly of the earthly counterpart of these elders as Sanhedrin or Great Council. Even some small church organizations call some of their members as elders. These are the learned men and who are holding office (seat or office), trustworthy and honest men (white robes) and possessing authority (crown of gold).

Each of these 24 Elders carries information to himself. Let’s say, for example, the elder that represents the 1st Seal knows there’s a white horse and its rider had a bow and it was given a crown and it came forth conquering and to conquer. Some of them possess more information than the others, but just like the real human elders who convene and share their thoughts on matters of beliefs and doctrines, they also share the information they held among themselves. So, the knowledge of each of these 24 Elders represent the collective information that all of them held. Add to these things the information that came out of the parallelisms between the L, S, T, LP which they represent. Like earthly human elders they teach us new and deeper things, and help us understand deep mysteries some of which can only be learned through them. That’s exactly what they have done when we were studying the topic – Parallelisms Based on the Creation Days, isn’t it? We can inquire from them some things that are unclear to us.

The 24 Elders are MORE THAN JUST personifications of the L, S, T, LP.

Real human elders do not just teach, they also study. They learn from the Holy Scripture, the word of God, so as with the 24 Elders, they seem to acquire new knowledge from God who is seated on the throne and from the Lamb who is in their midst. You will notice these things when you will study what the elder have said to John at the 6th Seal. Some are outside of the collective information they represent.

(Rev 7:13 KJV)  And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
(Rev 7:14 KJV)  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
(Rev 7:15 KJV)  Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
(Rev 7:16 KJV)  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
(Rev 7:17 KJV)  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

In this vision, John says that it is the elder who knows who the multitudes are (verse 14). Is it because the elder is an elder? As for me, yes, because elders convene on matters of doctrines and beliefs and the Parallelisms Based on the Creation Days is like a convention to them. They know when the great tribulation occurs because of the information they had and because of the parallelisms. Let’s now find where the elder got what he had told to John in the passage above.

Knowledge they learned from God and from the Lamb or Lord Yeshua who were very near to them:
– “have washed their robes” (verse 14) – Rev 22:14
– “blood of the Lamb” (verse 14) – Rev 12:11
– “he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them” (verse 15) – Rev 21:3
– “living fountains of waters” (verse 17) – Rev 22:1-2
– “God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes” (verse 17) – Rev 21:4

“Inherent” Knowledge:
– “great tribulation” (verse 14) – 4th Letter Rev 2:22
– “day and night” (verse 15) – 4th Trumpet Rev 8:12
– “neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat” (verse 16) – 4th Plague Rev 16:8-9

Their inherent knowledge here strongly support that the great tribulation occurs on the 4th Seal and that the 24 Elders are the personifications of the 1st six parts of  the L, S, T, LP as a whole with the parallelisms between them.

These things don’t stop here. This vision occurs on the 6th Seal. Who is the elder that represent this seal? Count it from the 1st Letter not including the 7th Letter up to this 6th Seal – it’s the 12th elder. Number 12 again in this Seal that’s full of 12’s.

Let’s study and find where the elder got what he had told to John in this verse:
(Rev 5:5 ESV)  And one of the elders said to me, “Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals.”

Knowledge they learned from God and from the Lord Yeshua:
– “Root of David” – Rev 22:16

“Inherent” Knowledge:
– “Lion” – 6th Trumpet Rev 10:3
– “tribe of Judah” 6th Seal Rev 7:5
– “David” – 6th Letter Rev 3:7 and Rev 3:9

(Not the person David) Look at the other meaning of “David”:

Strong’s Hebrew Dictionary:
H1732
dâvid  dâvîyd
daw-veed’, daw-veed’
From the same as H1730; loving; David, the youngest son of Jesse: – David.

BDB’s Hebrew Definitions:
H1732
dâvid  /  dâvîyd
David = “beloved
1) youngest son of Jesse and second king of Israel

Read a verse from the 6th Letter (Philadelphia):
(Rev 3:9 LITV)  Behold, I give out of the synagogue of Satan those saying themselves to be Jews, and they are not, but they lie. Behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they shall know that I loved you.

The definition of the word “Philadelphia”:
G5359
Philadelpheia
Thayer Definition:
Philadelphia = “brotherly love
1) a city of Lydia in Asia Minor, situated near the eastern base of of Mount Tmolus, founded and named by the Pergamene king, Attalus II Philadelphus. After the death of Attalus III Philometor, 133 BC, it together with his entire kingdom came by his will under the jurisdiction of the Romans.
Part of Speech: noun proper locative
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from Philadelphos (the same as G5361)

G5361
philadelphos
Thayer Definition:
1) loving brother or sister
2) in a broader sense, loving one like a brother, loving one’s fellow countrymen
2a) of an Israelite
2b) of a Christian loving Christians
Part of Speech: adjective
A Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G5384 and G80

Let’s continue with what the elder has told to John in Rev 5:5.
– “has conquered” – 7th Letter Rev 3:21 and 1st Seal Rev 6:2
Should we include the “has conquered” in the 7th Letter? The 24 Elders don’t include the 7th parts of the L, S, T, LP. The “conquering” in the 1st Seal if included will make the Seals to have a double entry.

What about the things they have said in the 7th Trumpet?

(Rev 11:15 ESV)  Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.”
(Rev 11:16 ESV)  And the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones before God fell on their faces and worshiped God,
(Rev 11:17 ESV)  saying, “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, who is and who was, for you have taken your great power and begun to reign.
(Rev 11:18 ESV)  The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.”

The events that were said by the 24 Elders and by the loud voices in heaven are what comprise the 7th Trumpet. John did not see these events; he heard it from them, instead.

What about the “new song” which they sang together with the 4 Living Creatures and which only the 144,000 could learn?

(Rev 5:9 NIV)  And they sang a new song: “You are worthy to take the scroll and to open its seals, because you were slain, and with your blood you purchased men for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.
(Rev 5:10 NIV)  You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

We already know that the 1st part of this song (the opening of Seals) has two applications, however its “origin” is not known to this article’s author. Maybe information like this falls under the attribute “crowns of gold” for the 24 Elders. The rest of the information on this song can be traced to John’s Letter to the 7 Churches in Asia:

(Rev 1:4 ISV)  From John to the seven churches in Asia. May grace and peace be yours from the one who is, who was, and who is coming, from the seven spirits who are in front of his throne,
(Rev 1:5 ISV)  and from Jesus Christ, the witness, the faithful one, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler over the kings of the earth. To the one who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood
(Rev 1:6 ISV)  and has made us a kingdom, priests for his God and Father, be glory and power forever and ever! Amen.

If we will compare the rest of their song to the letter of John to the 7 Churches in Asia (the underlined ones) we will see that the 7 Churches represent the (people who were purchased by the blood of our Lord Yeshua from) “every tribe and language and people and nation” and vice versa. These (people from) “every tribe and language and people and nation” can be found on the 6th Seal (Rev 7:9) and on the 6th Trumpet (Rev 11:9). So, the multitude from “every tribe and language and people and nation” on the 6th Seal (Rev 7:9) are the 7 Churches who came out of the great tribulation. And on the 6th Trumpet, Rev 11:9 could be saying that members of the 7 Churches will gaze on the dead bodies of their brethren – the Two Witnesses – who are also God’s people and will refuse to bury them.

Visit the link below to understand this topic better. The reader needs to read the topics “The Divisions of Revelation”, “The Parallelism Between The Trumpets and The Last Plagues” and the “Parallelisms Based On The Creation Days” in the said article: Revelation and Its Mysteries

The Olivet Prophecy: Arrow of the Lord

Revelation And Its Mysteries

Time, Times And A Half (3 ½ or 2 ½ Times?)

Daniel’s 1290 and 1335 Days

The Man and His Number (Tav Resh Samech Vav)

Revelation 12

The Red Dragon, Composite Beast, and Scarlet Beast of Revelation

The 4 Living Creatures And The 24 Elders

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