Student of the Light

June 30, 2018

2300 Evenings and Mornings

NOTE: Please bear with the poor English of the author of this article and be it known that this article is still a work in progress.

The “Vision”

The “vision” that appeared to Daniel apparently started with the portrayal of a ram in v3 which emblematizes the Medo-Persian Empire.

Dan 8:1-4 KJV
(1)  In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
(2)  And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
(3)  Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
(4)  I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.

(Dan 8:20 KJV)  The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.

According to secular history, Cyrus, the first Medo-Persian king, captured Babylon on 539 BC.

The 2300 evening morning period is reckoned in two ways by students of the Bible:

  1. as 1150 days/years or
  2. as 2300 days/years.

If we will calculate 2300 evenings and mornings from 539 BC, the corresponding results would be:

1150 days (no year “zero”):
539 BC + 1150 = 611 AD

2300 days (no year “zero”):
539 BC + 2300 = 1761 AD

Does any of them make sense?

Some people place the start of the vision of the 2300 at the time of the little horn of v9 which the following verse seems to support:

(Dan 8:26 KJV)  And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. 

Here is another translation of the same verse:

(Dan 8:26 YLT)  And the appearance of the evening and of the morning, that is told, is true; and thou, hide thou the vision, for it is after many days.’

The verse seems to be telling that the start of the count of the vision of the 2300 is not at the time of Cyrus who captured Babylon at the time of Belshazzar because the latter’s reign if reckoned as a day for a year would not be many. But, does the count really start with the little horn (v9) who is believe to be coming out in our near future? Let’s study the other verses.

Dan 8:1-2 KJV+
(1)  In the thirdH7969 yearH8141 of the reignH4438 of kingH4428 BelshazzarH1112 a visionH2377 appearedH7200 untoH413 me, even unto meH589 Daniel,H1840 after thatH310 which appearedH7200 untoH413 me at the first.H8462
(2)  And I sawH7200 in a vision;H2377 and it came to pass,H1961 when I saw,H7200 that IH589 was at ShushanH7800 in the palace,H1002 whichH834 is in the provinceH4082 of Elam;H5867 and I sawH7200 in a vision,H2377 and IH589 wasH1961 byH5921 the riverH180 of Ulai.H195

A vision appeared to Daniel. The Hebrew word “vision” (H2377) at the 1st and 2nd verses has no definite article prefixed to it but this same particular word (H2377) is written with a definite article which is prefixed to it in verses 13, 15, 17, and 26. [Only in v1 and v2 that this word has no definite article.] Here’s a quote about Hebrew definite articles from Learn Biblical Hebrew:

“Lesson 1.1: The Definite Article

A noun in both English and Hebrew will be either definite or indefinite. A definite noun is a specific instance of the noun suc as “that horse“, “Jim’s horse“, “the horse“). An indefinite noun, by contrast is a non-specific instance (“a horse“). Definite and indefinite nouns in Biblical Hebrew are expressed slightly differently relative to English. In Hebrew there is no indefinite article. In other words, biblical Hebrew does not have a counterpart to the English indefinite article, ‘a’ or ‘an’.”

It can now be grammatically realized that the scope of the definite “vision” (H2377) mentioned in verses 13, 15, 17, and 26 does not necessarily have to encompass the whole of the said indefinite “vision” (H2377) in v1-2 and this can be seen in the last clause of v14 which reads:

(Dan 8:14 KJV)  And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

The clause is clearly not part of the definite vision of the 2300 evenings and mornings. It belongs to another timeframe that occurs AFTER the definite one but it’s part of vision (not definite) that Daniel said in v1-2 to have appeared to him.

Now, aside from the Hebrew word H2377 which is rendered as “vision” in the whole chapter (KJV), there is another Hebrew word rendered also as “vision” by several translations of the Old Testament. This is the Hebrew word H4758 which can be found in verses 16, 26, and 27. Here is its definition:

BDB Definition:
1) sight, appearance, vision
1a) sight, phenomenon, spectacle, appearance, vision
1b) what is seen
1c) a vision (supernatural)
1d) sight, vision (power of seeing)
Part of Speech: noun masculine
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: from H7200

This word came from H7200 which is a verb and H7200 was translated as “appeared” in v1 in the KJV and as “saw” in the other parts of chapter 8. Here is its definition:

BDB Definition:
1) to see, look at, inspect, perceive, consider
1a) (Qal)
1a1) to see
1a2) to see, perceive
1a3) to see, have vision
1a4) to look at, see, regard, look after, see after, learn about, observe, watch, look upon, look out, find out
1a5) to see, observe, consider, look at, give attention to, discern, distinguish
1a6) to look at, gaze at
1b) (Niphal)
1b1) to appear, present oneself
1b2) to be seen
1b3) to be visible
1c) (Pual) to be seen
1d) (Hiphil)
1d1) to cause to see, show
1d2) to cause to look intently at, behold, cause to gaze at
1e) (Hophal)
1e1) to be caused to see, be shown
1e2) to be exhibited to
1f) (Hithpael) to look at each other, face
Part of Speech: verb
A Related Word by BDB/Strong’s Number: a primitive root

The question now is: when did the definite vision (H2377) of 2300 evenings mornings in v13 start?


The Starting Point of the Definite Vision

Let’s study the passages that could help Daniel understand what he saw.

(Dan 8:16 KJV)  And I heardH8085 a man’sH120 voiceH6963 betweenH996 the banks of Ulai,H195 which called,H7121 and said,H559 Gabriel,H1403 make thisH1975 man to understandH995 (H853) the vision.H4758

Gabriel was told to make Daniel understand the vision. The word “vision” rendered by the KJV in this verse is not the word “vision” (H2377) in the question in v13. The word “vision” in v16 is the noun H4758 which came from the verb H7200. In other words, Gabriel was told to make Daniel understand what he had seen, that is, maybe, the vision (H2377) from v3 up to v12 including the cleansing of the place of the sanctuary in v14, not just the definite vision.

Gabriel obeyed what was commanded to him:

(Dan 8:17 KJV)  So he cameH935 nearH681 where I stood:H5977 and when he came,H935 I was afraid,H1204 and fellH5307 uponH5921 my face:H6440 but he saidH559 untoH413 me, Understand,H995 O sonH1121 of man:H120 forH3588 at the timeH6256 of the endH7093 shall be the vision.H2377

The word “vision” in this verse is definite and it is the same definite “vision” asked in v13 – the definite vision of the 2300 evenings and mornings. What Gabriel told to Daniel should help him understand the appearance (H4758) he had seen (H7200). That could include the understanding of the structure of the whole indefinite vision and the relative position within it of the definite one.

In the translation of v17 above, it is said that the definite vision is for the time of the end. That should help Daniel understand the appearance (H4758) if that is the correct rendering. Is that really correct? Let’s look at the Hebrew noun “time” (H6256) used in the verse:


From H5703; time, especially (adverbially with preposition) now, when, etc.: –    + after, [al-] ways, X certain, + continually, + evening, long, (due) season, so [long] as, [even-, evening-, noon-] tide, ([meal-], what) time, when.

Look at the the two Hebrew characters that consist the word for “time” – עֵת. Together, they make up the root or lexeme word of “time” but in v17, the word is prefixed with another Hebrew character – ל – it is the 12th letter which is named as “Lamed” or “Lamedh.” Below is a quote from Wikipedia about the Hebrew letter: 

As a prefix, it can have two purposes:

  • It can be attached to verb roots, designating the infinitive (Daber means “speak”, Ledaber means to speak).
  • It can also act as a preposition meaning “to” or “for” [emphasis added].”

The word לעת which is already prefixed with Lamed can mean “for era” or “to era.” Below is the Hebrew rendering of Dan 8:17 followed by an alternate English rendering:

(Dan 8:17 Hebrew OT)  ויבא אצל עמדי ובבאו נבעתי ואפלה על־פני ויאמר אלי הבן בן־אדם כי לעת־קץ החזון׃

(Dan 8:17)  So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for to-time-of end shall be the vision.

NOTE: The conjunction “for” after the word “man” in the verse is not part of “to-time-of.” The word “for” numbered as H3588 is translated as “that” in other Bible versions.

“To time of end” means “until end.” Which is correct:

“Understand, O son of man: that for-time-of end shall be the vision.”


“Understand, O son of man: that to-time-of end shall be the vision.”?

Is the definite vision (H2377) of the 2300 evenings and mornings still future in our time (June 2018)?

(Dan 7:7 KJV)  After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
(Dan 7:8 KJV)  I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

It can be seen from the passage above that stamping precedes the coming out of the little horn before whom three of the ten horns were plucked up. At the time of the ten horns, the beast would be on its 7th head (read Revelation chapter 17), so, there’s a trampling that occurs before the 7th head of the beast.

What about the two verses below? Aren’t they telling of a trampling at the time of the 7th head of the beast?

(Rev 13:5 KJV)  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

(Rev 11:2 KJV)  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

APPARENTLY  they are, but obviously it is not for 2300 days or 1150 days. Before we tackle these two verses, let’s go back first to our main topic so that the reader doesn’t have to wait in suspense. Here again is Dan 8:17 with the preposition “to”:

(Dan 8:17)  So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: that to-time-of end shall be the vision.

Gabriel told Daniel to UNDERSTAND and he gives an ending delimiter to the definite vision. Surely, that would help Daniel understand what he had seen if he knew the time of the end. Now, is there a starting delimeter? Seemingly, there is. Verse 17 contains information regarding the ending delimiter and the word “understand” numbered H995. In v5, the word “understanding” or “considering” with the same Strong’s number is also present.

(Dan 8:5 KJV+)  And as IH589 wasH1961 considering,H995 behold,H2009 an he goatH6842 H5795 cameH935 fromH4480 the westH4628 onH5921 the faceH6440 of the wholeH3605 earth,H776 and touchedH5060 notH369 the ground:H776 and the goatH6842 had a notableH2380 hornH7161 betweenH996 his eyes.H5869

Unlike in Dan 7:7-8, it is not mentioned above what Daniel is considering or understanding. Below is a parsed version of the verse above and it’s more reliable.

(Hebrew is read from right to left.) The clause containing “considering” or “understanding” is written after the initial vision of the ram but before the vision of the goat. It can be said that Daniel started to become considering or discerning at that moment. Remember that verse 26 seems to be telling that the start of the count of the definite vision of the 2300 is not at the time of Cyrus. Could it be that its beginning is at the time of the goat? Let’s look at history. Here is a quote from Wikipedia:

“During his youth, Alexander was tutored by Aristotle until age 16. After Philip’s assassination in 336 BC, he succeeded his father to the throne and inherited a strong kingdom and an experienced army. Alexander was awarded the generalship of Greece and used this authority to launch his father’s pan-Hellenic project to lead the Greeks in the conquest of Persia.[4][5] In 334 BC, he invaded the Achaemenid Empire (Persian Empire) and began a series of campaigns that lasted ten years. Following the conquest of Anatolia, Alexander broke the power of Persia in a series of decisive battles, most notably the battles of Issus and Gaugamela. He subsequently overthrew Persian King Darius III and conquered the Achaemenid Empire in its entirety.[b] At that point, his empire stretched from the Adriatic Sea to the Indus River.”

A quote from

“In spring 334 he crossed the Dardanelles, leaving Antipater, who had already faithfully served his father, as his deputy in Europe with over 13,000 men; he himself commanded about 30,000 foot and over 5,000 cavalry, of whom nearly 14,000 were Macedonians and about 7,000 allies sent by the Greek League.”

Now, below is a quote from Adam Clarke’s Commentary:

Daniel 8:14

Unto two thousand and three hundred days – Though literally it be two thousand three hundred evenings and mornings. Yet I think the prophetic day should be understood here, as in other parts of this prophet, and must signify so many years. If we date these years from the vision of the he-goat, (Alexander’s invading Asia), this was A.M. 3670, b.c. 334; and two thousand three hundred years from that time will reach to a.d. 1966, or one hundred and forty-one years from the present a.d. 1825. This will bring it near to the time mentioned Dan_7:25 (note), where see the note.”

His comment on Dan 8:14 was a prediction because it is indicated in it the year he made his comment, A.D. 1825, 142 years before the Six Day War which occurred in 1967 AD. His computation does not include year “zero” between 1 BC and 1 AD. Was he correct, wrong, or short of just a year? Let’s examine “evenings and mornings.” In the first chapter of Genesis it is written:

Gen 1:3-5 KJV+
(3)  And GodH430 said,H559 Let there beH1961 light:H216 and there wasH1961 light.H216
(4)  And GodH430 sawH7200 (H853) the light,H216 thatH3588 it was good:H2896 and GodH430 dividedH914 H996 the lightH216 fromH996 the darkness.H2822
(5)  And GodH430 calledH7121 the lightH216 Day,H3117 and the darknessH2822 he calledH7121 Night.H3915 And the eveningH6153 and the morningH1242 wereH1961 the firstH259 day.H3117

It can be seen here how the Hebrew “day” (H3117) was defined as “evening and morning.” The word H3117 can also mean the day part of a 24 hour day. Let’s go back to the vision of the 2300 evenings and mornings.

(Dan 8:26 KJV+)  And the visionH4758 of the eveningH6153 and the morningH1242 whichH834 was toldH559 is true:H571 wherefore shut thou upH859 H5640 the vision;H2377 forH3588 it shall be for manyH7227 days.H3117

The Hebrew word used for “day” in the verse above is the same Hebrew word in Gen 1:5. Also the Hebrew words for “evenings” and “mornings” in Dan 8:14 are the same words used in Gen 1:5. So, whether the last clause of Dan 8:26 above means “for it shall be for many days” or “for it is after many days” as rendered by other Bible versions, the word “days” could be a hint as to the reckoning of “evenings and mornings” in v14 – 2300 prophetic days/years and not 1150.

In Genesis chapter 1, an evening and a morning denote a particular day. If we will treat the 2300 evenings and mornings in the same manner and make 334-333 BC the 1st particular day/year, the 2300th day/year would be on 1966-1967 AD (no year “zero”). We should use the calendar God gave to Israel.

Exo 12:1-2 KJV
(1)  And the LORD spake unto Moses and Aaron in the land of Egypt, saying,
(2)  This month shall be unto you the beginning of months: it shall be the first month of the year to you.

Exo 13:3-4 KJV
(3)  And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day, in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand the LORD brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten.
(4)  This day came ye out in the month Abib.

Exodus chapters 12 and 13 are part of a continuous passage.

The month of Abib is also known as “Nisan.” A quote from Wikipedia:

Nisan (or NissanHebrewנִיסָן‎, Standard Nisan Tiberian Nîsān) on the Assyrian calendar is the first month, and on the Hebrew calendar is the first month of the ecclesiastical year and the seventh month (eighth, in leap year) of the civil year. The name of the month is of AssyrianBabylonian origin; in the Torah it is called the month of the Aviv. (e.g. Exodus 13:4 בְּחֹ֖דֶשׁ הָאָבִֽיב ḥōḏeš hā-’āḇîḇAssyrians today refer to the month as the “month of happiness.” It is a spring month of 30 days. Nisan usually falls in March–April on the Gregorian calendar. In the Book of Esther in the Tanakh it is referred to as Nisan. Karaite Jews interpret it as referring to the month in which barley was ripe.”

This spring month usually falls on March-April.

The 2300th year occurred from March 22, 1966 to April 10, 1967 (Hebcal). In the very next day/year after the 2300th day/year, on the 26th day of the 2nd month (Iyyar) of God’s calendar which is June 5, 1967 in the Gregorian, the Six Day War started. Below is a short quote from http://www.brittannica. com:

“Six-Day War, also called June War or Third Arab-Israeli War, brief war that took place June 5–10, 1967, and was the third of the Arab-Israeli warsIsrael’s decisive victory included the capture of the Sinai PeninsulaGaza StripWest Bank, Old City of Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights; the status of these territories subsequently became a major point of contention in the Arab-Israeli conflict.”

A quote from Wikipedia:

Impact of reunification on worship

Reunification ended the programmatic Islamization of Jerusalem by the government of Jordan, a policy that had included the destruction of dozens of synagogues; the imposition of Arabic-language, government-issued textbooks in Christian schools; a ban on the purchase of property by churches; a ban on church funding of social and medical services, including hospitals; and a complete ban on visits to Jewish holy places by Jewish pilgrims.

Freedom of worship by members of all faiths was restored immediately following reunification.

The narrow, approximately 120 square metres (1,300 sq ft) pre-1948 alley along the wall used informally for Jewish prayer was enlarged to 2,400 square metres (26,000 sq ft), with the entire Western Wall Plaza covering 20,000 square metres (4.9 acres).[7]In later years, synagogues demolished during the Jordanian rule, including the Hurva Synagogue were rebuilt.[8]”

The unification of Jerusalem in June 1967 AD signals the end of the 2300 evenings and mornings and the start of the cleansing/restoration of the Sanctuary or Holy Place but it is not an instant process; it is still going on at our time. There are still structures in the Temple Mount that ought not to be there.

The time frame of the restoration/cleansing is not part of the definite vision of the 2300 evenings and mornings and according to what has been presented so far in this article, it can be inferred that this time frame correspondingly includes some events made known to Daniel by Gabriel – the bold lettered sentence in the following verse:

(Dan 8:25 KJV)  And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.


…To the Time of the End

When is the time of the End? This is a mystery but it can be known in the pages of the Holy Scriptures and History.

(Mat 24:15 KJV)  When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

The construction of the Dome of the Rock was the fulfillment of the setting up of the abomination that desolates. At that time it was already time of the end! Yes, it was and there are solid proofs. Read the following short articles:

Daniel’s 1290 and 1335 Days

An interesting short article which tells when the time of the end comes.

Olivet Prophecy: Part 1

This is a short introductory section of the whole article written to help the reader understand the other sections.

Olivet Prophecy: Part 3

(Mat 24:6 KJV)  And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Olivet Prophecy: Part 4

(Mat 24:14 KJV)  And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Let’s continue with our topic.

(Dan 8:19 KJV)  And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.

There seems to be an error in the KJV rendering of the verse, here’s another translation of it:

(Dan 8:19 MKJV)  And he said, Behold, I will make you know what shall happen in the last end of the indignationH2195. For it is for the time appointed for the end.

It is within the appointed time frame of the end the latter part of the indignation will occur.

What “indignationH2195” in the verse above is meant? There are other Hebrew words for indignation as well as for wrath, anger, and fury that can be found in the Bible: H5678, H639, H2740, H7110, H2534, H3708. Now, read a verse from the 11th Chapter of Daniel:

(Dan 11:36 KJV)  And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignationH2195 be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

The “indignation” in the two verses above are one and the same Hebrew word – H2195. If this indignation is the Wrath of God that consists of the symbolic treading of the Great Winepress (Rev 14:18-20), and the Seven Last Plagues (Rev 16:1-21) which will culminate in the Day of the Lord, would the king (Dan 11:36) prosper till the wrath be accomplished completely? Clearly, it’s a NO!!!

Jer 30:23-24 KJV
(23)  Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.
(24)  The fierce anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it.

The “indignation” in Dan 8:19 and 11:36 is not the Wrath of God which will culminate in the Day of the Lord. Even just at the starting part of the Wrath of God, the king or the little horn will surely stop progressing.

Many Bible Commentators say that the said indignation (Dan 8:19, 11:36) is God’s anger towards the House of Israel and the House of Judah. The author doesn’t know when this indignation of God against them started. But maybe, just maybe, it ended after the time of Jacob’s Trouble (Jer 30:7), after World War 2 which is the last part of the Great Tribulation. (Read The Great Tribulation GT.) That was over 70 years ago at the time of this writing and almost all of us know that the 7th head of the Beast has not yet arrived. When he arrives, he will still progress (read the next paragraph), then, after his appointed time, the Wrath of God (Jer 30:23-24) will come which he won’t get pass through progressing.

According to history, Islam was introduced early in the 7th century AD. If the trampling of some of the host and stars had started in the 7th century AD, then that would require the horn to be representing a line of kings rather than just a single king. The explanation of the Angel Gabriel about the vision in v23 up to v25 can be treated similarly as to how Daniel narrates the vision in chapter 11 of his book concerning two lines of kings – of the north and of the south.

The line of kings represented by the little horn in the vision of the Ram and Goat started with Muhammad. He did boast even to the Lord Yeshua. (50 Proofs Muhammad is the antichrist)

The last king will speak great things and blasphemies against God (Dan 7:25, Rev 13:5-6) and that would be tantamount to magnifying himself to God. He shall stand up against the Prince of princes.

In Dan 8:19, it is written that Gabriel will make Daniel know what shall be in the last end of the indignation and from v20 up to v25 he explained what Daniel had seen. Now, if we will look closer we will see that what he explained in v20-22 are surely not part of the last end of the indignation, are they? The last end of the indignation would occur within the appointed time of the end. Now, could it be that the last sentence in the following verse is also not part of the last end of the indignationH2195 because the indignationH2195 of God toward the Houses of Israel and Judah is already past at that time?

(Dan 8:25 ISV)  Through his skill he’ll cause deceit to prosper under his leadership. He’ll promote himself and will destroy many while they are secure. He’ll take a stand against the Prince of Princes, yet he’ll be crushed without human help.

A Pattern?

The textual structure of the whole indefinite vision (v3-v14) and the relative position within it of the definite one (v5-v12)…

have a resemblance with…

the textual structure of the whole explanation (v20-v25c) and the relative position within it of the events of “last end of the indignation” (v23-v25b).


The Actual Events

He Magnified Himself even to the Prince of the Host …

<Dan 8:11>

In the Hebrew manuscripts, the word “himself” is not present

There are lot’s of articles in the Internet that show how Muhammad boasted even to the Prince of host, here is one:

50 Proofs Muhammad is the antichrist

In so many ways, Muhammad did boast or magnified himself to the Lord Yeshua!

Trodden Under Foot:

(Dan 8:13 KJV)  Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

Historically, the peoples who trampled or caused the place of the Sanctuary to be trampled were:

  1. Greek Seleucid Empire (Antiochus IV Epiphanes)
  2. The Romans
  3. The Muslims

All the three peoples mentioned above ruled Jerusalem inside the time frame of the 2300 evenings and mornings, from 334/333 BC to 1966/1967 AD but it was at the time of the Muslims that the said time frame had consummated.

“To be trodden under foot” has a figurative meaning:

H4823 מִרְמָס
From H7429; abasement (the act or the thing): – tread (down) -ing, (to be) trodden (down) under foot.
Total KJV occurrences: 7

When Islam spread in the Middle East, including Jerusalem, Christians and Jews within the realm of the Islamic Empire were subjected to Dhimmi Laws which were said to be humiliating and degrading.


Living under these laws is like BEING STAMPED OR TRAMPLED? Here’s a quote from New World Encyclopedia:

“A dhimmi ([ðimi]; Arabic: ذمي, meaning “protected person”) refers to specific individuals living in Muslim lands, who were granted special status and safety in Islamic law in return for paying the capital tax. This status was originally only made available to non-Muslims who were People of the Book, namely, Jews and Christians), but was later extended to include Zoroastrians, Mandeans, and, in some areas, Hindus[1] and Buddhists.[2] The term connotes an obligation of the state to protect the individual, including the individual’s life, property, and freedom of religion and worship, and required loyalty to the empire, and a poll tax known as the jizya. Dhimmi had fewer legal and social rights than Muslims, but more rights than other non-Muslim religious subjects.[3] This status applied to millions of people living from the Atlantic Ocean to India from the seventh century until modern times.[4][5]

Conversion by a dhimmi to Islam was generally easy, and almost without exception emancipated the new convert from all legal impairments of his previous dhimmi status. Violently forced conversion was rare or unknown in early Islamic history, but increased in frequency in later centuries, such as in the Almohad dynasty of North Africa and al-Andalus.[5]”

Another quote from Encyclopedia of Judaism:

“Dhimmi Laws

Laws fixing the status of Jews and other religious minorities in Muslim lands. In principle, Jews and Christians were accorded the status of “protected” people (i.e. dhimmi), being recognized as People of the Book (ahl al-kitab). As such, they were permitted to practice their religion, own property, and carry on trade and were exempted from military service. In return they were obliged to acknowledge the superiority of Islam and subjected to numerous and often humiliating disabilities, including special taxes, dress codes, restrictions on riding animals, etc., the upshot of which was to relegate the Jews and other minorities to the status of second-class citizens.”

From the time that the Muslims had taken Jerusalem from the Byzantine Empire in 638 AD except for the times that the city was under the Crusaders, the “host” were trodden under foot until the liberation and unification of Jerusalem in June 1967. The place of the Sanctuary was literally trodden down by people who should not be there.

It should be noted that the word “Sanctuary” occurs three times in the whole chapter 8 of Daniel. One of them which has Strong’s number H4720 is in v11 while the other two which have the same number H6944 can be found in v13 and v14. It’s possible that the word “Sanctuary” in v13 and v14 means “Holy Place” which was a part of the 1st and 2nd Sanctuary. [“Holy Place” could be referring to the whole Temple Mount.] Below are the definitions of H6944:

H6944 קֹדֶשׁ
From H6942; a sacred place or thing; rarely abstractly sanctity: – consecrated (thing), dedicated (thing), hallowed (thing), holiness, (X most) holy (X day, portion, thing), saint, sanctuary.


Continual or Daily:

It is very important to note that the word “sacrifice” or “burnt-offering” after the word “daily” in v13 is not part of or included in the Hebrew manuscripts. The word “sacrifice” or “burnt-offering” was just inserted by the translators of the Old Testament, that’s why it’s italicized in the King James Version and in some other translations.

“Continual” or “daily” (v13) could mean “continual burnt offering:”

Exo 29:41-42 KJV
(41)  And the other lamb thou shalt offer at even, and shalt do thereto according to the meat offering of the morning, and according to the drink offering thereof, for a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
(42)  This shall be a continual(H8548) burnt offering throughout your generations at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation before the LORD: where I will meet you, to speak there unto thee.

It could also mean “continual incense:”

Exo 30:7-8 KJV
(7)  And Aaron shall burn thereon sweet incense every morning: when he dresseth the lamps, he shall burn incense upon it.
(8)  And when Aaron lighteth the lamps at even, he shall burn incense upon it, a perpetual (H8548) incense before the LORD throughout your generations.

As continual incense, it could also be a continual, perpetual, or daily prayer:

(Psa 141:2 KJV)  Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.

Luk 1:9-10 KJV
(9)  According to the custom of the priest’s office, his lot was to burn incense when he went into the temple of the Lord.
(10)  And the whole multitude of the people were praying without at the time of incense.

A quote from Adam Clark’s Commentary:

“Luke 1:10

The whole multitude – were praying – The incense was itself an emblem of the prayers and praises of the people of God: see Psa_141:2; Rev_8:1. While, therefore, the rite is performing by the priest, the people are employed in the thing signified. Happy the people who attend to the spirit as well as the letter of every divine institution! Incense was burnt twice a day in the temple, in the morning and in the evening, Exo_30:7, Exo_30:8; but the evangelist does not specify the time of the day in which this transaction took place. It was probably in the morning.”

Note: Rev 8:1 should be Rev 8:3-4 maybe.

Transgression of Desolation:

(Dan 8:13 KJV+)  Then I heardH8085 oneH259 saintH6918 speaking,H1696 and anotherH259 saintH6918 saidH559 unto that certainH6422 saint which spake,H1696 How longH5704 H4970 shall be the visionH2377 concerning the dailyH8548 sacrifice, and the transgressionH6588 of desolation,H8074 to giveH5414 both the sanctuaryH6944 and the hostH6635 to be trodden under foot?H4823

What is transgression of desolation? The Hebrew word for “transgression” has its definitions below

H6588 פֶּשַׁע
From H6586; a revolt (national, moral or religious): – rebellion, sin, transgression, trespassive

The word came from H6586

H6586 פָּשַׁע
A primitive root (rather identical with H6585 through the idea of expansion); to break away (from just authority), that is, trespass, apostatize, quarrel: – offend, rebel, revolt, transgress (-ion, -or).

According to the understanding of the author of this article, the definition “apostatize” on the primitive root word, when converted to a noun, is the most appropriate rendering of H6588 in v13 because of the context of the passage below:

2Th 2:3-12 KJV
(3)  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(4)  Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(5)  Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
(6)  And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
(7)  For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
(8)  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
(9)  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(10)  And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
(11)  And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
(12)  That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

According to Syriac Electronic Data Retrieval Archive (SEDRA), the definition of the Aramaic word for “falling away” in 2Thess 2:3 is “rebellion, apostasy.” So, Dan 8:13 could be rendered as:

(Dan 8:13)  Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily, and the desolating apostasy, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?

The greatest falling away or apostasy that had occurred in the history of Christianity, so far, was at the time of the rise and spread of Islam in the “world.”  Before Islam came out in the early 7th century AD, Christianity had already spread in the known world and it had become the dominant religion. Here’s a timeline map of the spread of Christianity from Wikipedia:

Then Islam supplanted Christianity in “all the world.” Here’s the timeline map of the spread of Islam:

Age of the Caliphs

  Expansion under Muhammad, 622–632/A.H. 1-11
  Expansion during the Rashidun Caliphate, 632–661/A.H. 11-40
  Expansion during the Umayyad Caliphate, 661–750/A.H. 40-129

This great apostasy has brought about the setting up of the abomination that desolates in the Holy Place (late 7th century AD), the Dome of the Rock. Several other Muslim structures were built in the Temple Mount since then.

Below is a link to a historical account of the Temple Mount beginning from the time of the Roman Empire.

Did Jews Abandon the Temple Mount?

Even if the status quo of the Temple Mount at the time of this writing is seemingly not moving in the direction of “and the Sanctuary (or Holy Place) shall be restored or cleansed” (Dan 8:14), the sovereignty of the Temple Mount is already in the hands of the Jews. Also, the trampling on (implementation of the humiliating Dhimmi Laws) of the “host,” had already stopped, at least in Jerusalem.

Trampling for 42 months at the time of the 7th head of the Beast?

It’s time to tackle the two verses below.

(Rev 13:5 KJV)  And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

(Rev 11:2 KJV)  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Let’s first discuss Revelation 13:5

The Aramaic word for “continue” has its definition below:

(bd verb G
ˁbd vb. a/e to make, act, do
to make Com–(a) to create Syr(a.1) to write Syr–(b) (often w. ˁl, l_) : to transfer ownership OfA-Egypt, OfA-Pers(b.1) to designate, make into JLAtg, Gal–(c) to prepare Syr(c.1) to re-make, repair Syr–(d) to provide, produce Gal, PTA, Syr, JBA(d.1) to amount to, to be equal to Galto be suitable Syr(d.2) to work a field, plant JBA–(e) p.p. : prepared JBA(e.1) w. inf. or relative clause : likely to, apt to JBA(e.2) דעביד  followed by a noun : in the condition of  JBA(e.3) see also s.v. ˁbyd, ˁbydh .
to do, perform, act in a certain manner Com–(a) to pass (time) in a certain way Gal, Syr, Man–(b) to work JBA(b.1) to perform religious service Syr, JBA(b.2) to perform a magical practice Gal, Syr, JBAmb–(c) to fare, prosper Gal(c.1) p.p. id. Gal(c.2) p.p. to suffer Syr+ܒܣܝܡܐܝܬ‏ : to eat in moderation (?)‏ Syr.
to put in charge Jud, Syr.
idiomatic expressions: . –(a) ܐܲܦܸ̈ܐ‏ : to give priority or opportunity‏ Syr–(b) ܦܲܪܨܘܿܦܸܗ‏ : to act in someone’s place‏ Syr–(c) w. qrb, etc.: to make war, battle OfA-Pers, BA-Ez, BA-Da–(d) w. reflexive pron. : to pretend, simulate Gal, Syr–(e) ܚܸܘܵܪܵܐ‏ : to become grey‏ Syr–(f) ܚܘܼܒܿܵܐ‏ : to make friends‏ Syr–(g) ܡܸܠܬܵܐ‏ : to speak‏ Syr–(h) ܦܝܣܐ‏ to persuade‏ Syr–(i) ܥܘܼܗܕܵܢܵܐ‏ : to commemorate‏ Syr–(j) פרנסה  : to make a collection for support  Jud–(k) סִתוָא  : to spend the winter  JLAtg.
to ordain Syr–(a) to determine the law Gal.
to force Syr–(a) (gram.) to govern Syr.

In some of its instances, this verb is used with a noun such as “to make war” like in v4 and v7 of the current chapter and book we are into but in v5, the verb has no direct object. It should be understood in the context of the verse or passage it belongs to. Now, isn’t the particular verb “to do” or “to make” referring to the previous part of the verse?

“there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies”

This is confirmed by the very 1st clause of the very next verse:

(Rev 13:6 KJV)  And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

Rev 13:5 could be rendered as:

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to do so for forty and two months.

It is NOT for the “giving of the Holy People” the beast (or mouth) was given authority for 42 months – it is for the speaking of great things and blasphemies! In v7 of Rev 13, it can be read:

(Rev 13:7 KJV)  And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

The beast is AGAIN given power or authority and this time it is to be “over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations” in which the Holy People are included but it will be only after it had made war with and overcome the saints. This is the time duration the “time, times and half of a time” in Dan 7:25 is telling:

(Dan 7:25 KJV)  And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

The time of the “speaking of blasphemies” does not equate with the time the Holy People will be under the authority of the beast or mouth.

– The “speaking” has 42 months.
– The “giving over” has “time, times and half of a time”

It cannot be denied that there is a disparity between these two time frames because of the war but it can be said that a part of the time frame of “speaking” overlaps with a part or whole of the time frame of “giving over.” It is very probable that they will end at the same time and the only possible reason that can be seen now is because of the coming of the wrath of God – the time that the court will sit in Judgment (Dan 7:26), the time that the winepress of the wrath of God will be trodden (Rev 14:20), and the time of the Two Myriads of Myriads Horsemen to inflict the three first plagues (Rev 9:13-21). The “time, times and half of a time” in Dan 7:25 is not equal with the 42 months in Rev 13:5, the former is shorter than the latter. Well, this is not easy to accept as true but it can be proven that they are really not equal in duration. Read the article: TIME, TIMES, AND A HALF (3 1/2 or 2 1/2 Times?). The trampling of Jerusalem for 42 months cannot happen inside the “time of times and half of a time.”

What about the verse below?

(Rev 11:7 KJV)  And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

This verse which is about the Two Witnesses and the Beast seems to confuse our understanding of sequence of events in Revelation. Let’s examine it. In the Peshitta, the word “ascendeth” is also in its present tensethe “bottomless pit” is “sea.” (See the Analysis Page of Rev 11:7) Does the verse tell the beast is ascending only at that point in time? What is obvious is: the beast will make war against the two witnesses. The “ascending” can mean another thing: At that time, the beast is ascending, that is, it is traveling from the symbolic “sea” where it is symbolically residing and it is going to the place where the two witnesses are (symbolic “heaven”) to make war against them. – to Armageddon?

Rev 16:14-16 KJV
(14)  For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
(15)  Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
(16)  And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

As was said earlier, the trampling of Jerusalem for 42 months cannot happen during this time because it clearly occurs BEFORE the time of the two witnesses according to chapter 11 of Revelation.


Let’s now discuss Revelation 11:2

Rev 11:1-2 KJV
(1)  And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
(2)  But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Aren’t these verses belong to John’s vantage point in time? Let’s try to understand it.

The 6th Trumpet contains the visions of:

  • The Two Myriads of Myriads Horsemen
  • The Mighty Angel with a Little Scroll
  • The Two Witnesses

If we will study the time settings of this Trumpet, it will naturally come to our minds that what John had just seen and heard in the vision of The Two Myriads of Myriads Horsemen is future from his time. In the first three verses of the next vision, The Mighty Angel with a Little Scroll, John continues to narrate what he had just seen and heard which are future then as well. Then in v4, he states that a voice from heaven prevented him from writing what the Seven Thunders had uttered. At that moment, at that part of the 6th Trumpet, the vantage point in time is at John’s time – the time when he was seeing and writing the vision of the 6th Trumpet. In v5-v7, the perspective of time goes back in the future of John – the time of the swearing of the Mighty Angel. After that, the perspective of time once again returns to that of John and remained there up to the mid-part of the next vision – The Two Witnesses. Then, from the 11th verse up to the last verse of that chapter (11), the perspective of time is again owned by the 6th Trumpet.

The passages of the 6th Trumpet that belong to John’s vantage point are:

– Verse 4 of chapter 10
– Verse 8 of the same chapter (10) up to verse 10 of the next chapter (11)

Although it is viewed from John’s perspective of time, the account of the Two Witnesses (Rev 11:3–10) is the only part of what was told to him that we can be sure will occur at the actual time of the 6th Trumpet because from v11 of chapter 11, he was back in seeing the last part of the 6th Trumpet which was the continuation of what’s has been told to him about the Two Witnesses and that last part clearly belongs to the vantage point of the 6th Trumpet.

How about the trampling of the Holy City in v2?

As can be seen from Rev 11:1-2, the “trampling” is (just) an expounding of the phrase “for it was given to the nations” which in turn is (just) a reason why John should not measure the outside court of the temple. Moreover, the passage belongs to John’s vantage point of time and that could make a difference with respect to the time of occurrence of the “treading on.” It can be stated that unlike with the account of the two witnesses (v3-v10), the “trampling of the Holy City” doesn’t have the sureness that it really happens inside the time frame of the 6th Trumpet. Isn’t it more likely that the “trampling for forty two months” in v2 the “trampling” mentioned in Luke 21:24 which occurred nearer to John’s time and to the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD?

(Luk 21:24 KJV)  And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

Not a few students of the Bible say that the “treading on” in the verse above was fulfilled by the Romans. Even if what the Romans did to Jerusalem in 70 AD can be called “treading under foot,” it was not for forty two months. As for me, it was the Muslims who did fulfill the trampling of Jerusalem which started AFTER most of the Jews were led away captive into all nations. A quote from Wikipedia:

“The Siege of Jerusalem was part of a military conflict which took place in the year 637 between the Byzantine Empire and the Rashidun Caliphate. It began when the Rashidun army, under the command of Abu Ubaidah, besieged Jerusalem in November 636. After six months, the Patriarch Sophronius agreed to surrender, on condition that he submit only to the Caliph. In April 637, Caliph Umar traveled to Jerusalem in person to receive the submission of the city. The Patriarch thus surrendered to him.”

Historically, Jerusalem was conquered by the Muslims in 637 AD and from that time up to the Six Day War in 1967, except for the years 1099 AD to 1187 AD, they controlled the city or part of the city. The years 1099 AD to 1187 AD were the years Jerusalem was under the Crusaders. It was the result of the 1st Crusade and it was the only time that Jerusalem was totally controlled by Christian Crusaders.


In the Aramaic Peshitta, the word for “months” in Rev 11:2 has a state of “emphatic.” (See Analysis Page of Rev 11:2) Thus, it would be declined as “the months.” The 42 months are 42 definite months. Let’s map in our minds the landmark prophetic months from year 637 AD up to 1967 AD with the consideration of the time of the Crusaders. Note: God’s calendar starts at spring months.

The 1st month would be from 637 AD to 667 AD. The 2nd month would be from 667 AD to 697 AD.

The timeline map at the time of the Crusaders:

The 16th month was from 1087 AD to 1117 AD. It was on this month Jerusalem was taken by the Christian Crusaders (1099 AD). Only a littler over 12 years of this particular prophetic month Jerusalem was under the Muslims, but it can be stated that the Muslims did trample the city on that particular prophetic month. 12 of 30 years is not insignificant.

The years that started in the spring of 1117 AD up to the last day of the last literal month of the year of God’s calendar that falls on 1187 AD should be skipped for the reason that no trodding down had occurred.

The 17th month was from 1187 AD to 1217 AD. In 1187 AD, Jerusalem was taken back by the Muslims under Saladin. The count resumed at this particular prophetic month.

Let’s go at the end of the timeline map:

The 42nd month which is the last would be from March 13, 1937 up to April 10, 1967 AD.

In June 5, 1967, the Six Day War begun. After the war, Jerusalem was liberated and reunited and the treading under foot of the city had stopped.

Some may wonder if it is Biblically allowed to have a gap within a prophesied time period like the 42 month period. The author does not know if it is so or not but read the following verse:

(Luk 21:24 KJV)  And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

The word “times” is in the plural form. The same is true in the Aramaic Peshitta, here’s the Analysis Page of Luke 21:24.


Let’s worship the Name of the Almighty God and of the Lord Yeshua who see to it that what is written is what will happen!


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September 26, 2017

The Aftermath of The Great Tribulation (GT)

NOTE: Please bear with the poor English of the author and be it known that this article may expand or change in form in the future.

This topic is a natural sequel to the article: The Great Tribulation (GT). The reader is suggested to read the the said article to understand the time of occurrence of the great tribulation.

(Rev 6:12 KJV)  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

As was said in the article mentioned above, the verse above is the darkening of heavenly hosts that comes immediately after the days of GT (4th Seal) in which WW2 is the last event. It is highly probable that what it is portraying are events that are related to the aftermath of the Great Tribulation.

Great Earthquake

This could be referring to:

  • The redrawing of territorial boundary lines of nations partly conquered and
  • The restoration of territories which were totally conquered and occupied by the Axis Powers and of the sovereign rights and control to their rightful owners who were displaced by the war.

The Sun became Black as Sackcloth of Hair

Here first is the definition of the Aramaic word for “black:”

)wkm A01
ˀwkm (ˀukkām) adj. black

1 black JLAtg, Gal, PTA, CPA, Syr, JBA, Man, LJLA.
2 pupil (of the eye; see also s.v. ˀwkmt ˁynˀ) Syr, JBA.
3 various black (or very dark) objects Syr, JBA. –(a) pl. garments, textiles (as a sign of sadness, mourning) Syr. –(b) pl. spots Syr, JBA. (b.1) algae, moss, or mildew spots JBA. (b.2) diacritical points Syr.

Look at the 3rd meaning of the word. Sackcloth is a garment and a textile, so, most likely, “sadness” and/or “mourning” is what “black” is denoting. Note that the 3rd meaning has to be plural. The word “black” is in the singular and so as the “sun” but the “sun” symbolizes a people and not just an individual.

Most of us know what the Jews had gone through during the Holocaust in which, approximately, six million Jews were slaughtered according to history. Although a few individuals outside of Nazi occupied territories already knew of what was happening to the Jews even at the early stages of the war, it was not until the closing of WW2 that the mass killings of Jews were “discovered.” Camp after camp with gas chambers, abandoned by Nazi soldiers, fell into the hands of Allied soldiers. It was only then that the extent of the mass killings was realized. Then the world came to know about this genocide and the servants of God of Israel and of the Messiah all over the world were SADDENED and they MOURNED.

The Moon became as Blood

A part of the servants of God of Israel and of the Messiah not only lamented but also felt guilt. Some of them felt that they had not done the things they believed they should have done to prevent a Jew or Jews from being exterminated. Many church people were said to have this guilt feeling.

Some of them felt guilt maybe because a member of their families or relatives had been involved in the persecution or worst the extermination of the Jews. This kind of “guilt” is what they call the “German Collective Guilt.”

Leaders of powerful Christian nations and their officials and even their citizens might also had had this feeling of guilt because their respective nations hadn’t acted or had acted too late to save the Jews especially those who had prior knowledge about the killings.

Now, look at the meaning of “blood” in the phrase “the moon became as blood:”

dm noun sg. Emphatic
dm, dmˀ (dem/dam, dmā; ˀḏem, ˀeḏmā) n.m. blood

1 blood Com. –(a) ܕܡܐ ܢܫܝܐ‏ : menstruation‏ Syr. –(b) mortal bloodshed Syr. (b.1) ܥܕܵܡܵܐ ܠܲܕܡܵܐ‏ even unto death‏ Syr. (b.2) blood guilt Sam.
2 juice Syr.

The writer doesn’t know if “blood guilt” is to be understood as believers’ own feelings or as an “accusation” from God or both. Here’s a quote from Encyclopedia Judaica:

“BLOODGUILT, liability for punishment for shedding blood. The biblical concept of bloodguilt derives from the belief that deeds generate consequences and that sin, in particular, is a danger to the sinner. The most vivid examples of this belief appear in connection with unlawful homicide, where innocent blood (dam naki (naqi); Jonah 1:14) cries out for vengeance (Gen. 4:10), is rejected by the earth (Isa. 26:21; Ezek. 24:7), and pollutes it (Num. 35:33–34). Bloodguilt attaches to the slayer and his family (II Sam. 3:28ff.) for generations (II Kings 9:26), and even to his city (Jer. 26:5), nation (Deut. 21:8), and land (Deut. 24:4). The technical term for bearing bloodguilt damo bo, or damo bero’sho, meant originally “his blood [remains] in him/in his head” (Josh. 2:19; Ezek. 33:5), and the legal formula mot yumat damav bo (Lev. 20:9–16) means that in the case of lawful execution, the blood of the guilty victim remains on his own person and does not attach itself to his executioners.

The Stars Fell to the Earth…

(Rev 6:13 KJV)  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

Immediately after WW2, believers in the God of Israel and the Messiah were saddened and they mourned because of the Holocaust. Some people including church people felt guilt. There was another group of people that arose from WW2 – those who lost their faith toward God and the Lord. These were those who questioned the existence of God and asked why God could have allowed such thing to happen. Wasn’t this group of people the stars of heaven that fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind?

What is “untimely” fig? A quote from The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges:

“The “untimely fig” is the fig which, having formed too late to ripen in the autumn, hangs through the winter, but almost always drops off before the sap begins to rise in spring, so as not to come to maturity. See Comm. on Mat_21:19 and parallels.”

The untimely figs are the fruits that drop off easily.

The Heavens were Sundered as…

(Rev 6:14 KJV)  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Here is the link to the Aramaic Analysis Page of Rev 6:14:

The “heavens” which are in their plural forms are likened to scrolls (also plural). Scrolls at the time of John looked like:

Look at the verb ID 2:17284 in the linked Aramaic Analysis Page above. What is the correct rendering of it in the particular verse? We can know the answer by consulting the pages of history.

Three years after the Holocaust, the UN established a national home in Palestine for the Jews. The modern day nation of Israel was born in May 14, 1948 AD. A part of the 12 Tribes of Israel had returned to their homeland which was given by God to their ancestors.

If one will look at the map in the Internet, it will be seen that their national home is almost surrounded by Muslim countries. The only side of their country that is not abutted by a Muslim country is on the side of the Mediterranean Sea. Their home was separated from the homes of the other tribes of Israel in Europe where most of them came from. Now, isn’t the place where the symbolic sun, moon, and stars reside called “heaven?”

Only a small part of the 12 Tribes of Israel returned to their homeland after WW2, so verb ID 2:17284 could not mean “departed” because only one “heaven” has departed. The word “heavens” in the verse is in the plural form. “Separated” or “sundered” is the appropriate rendering; the two “heavens” were separated or sundered. These could be referring to the descendants of the people of the “Northern Kingdom” and “Southern Kingdom” which came from Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

What about Isaiah 34:4?

(Isa 34:4 KJV)  And all the host of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll: and all their host shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree.

The verse above belongs to the Day of the Lord’s Vengeance (v8); see the other verses before and after it. If it will be compared to Rev 6:13-14 word for word, it will be seen that Isa 34:4 is clearly figuring other events.

Every Mountain and Island were Shaken

(Rev 6:14 KJV)  And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

“Mountain” is one of the figures of “kingdom” or “nation.”

Here is a quote from The History Learning Site about what happened when the new state of Israel was born in 1948.

“Israel was attacked on the same day it gained its independence – May 14th. The armies of Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and Iraq attacked Israel. With such a combined force attacking Israel, few would have given the new country any chance of survival.

In fact, Israel had internal problems regardless of what was happening on its borders. The regular army had to be used to disband Irgun and the Stern Gang. Both of these had been classed as terrorist organisations by the British in pre-war PalestineDavid Ben-Gurion, Prime Minister and Defence Minister wanted the Israeli army to remain non-political and using a combination of diplomacy and force, he removed both groups as a threat. The leaders of both groups were arrested but members of them did join the army. At the height of the 1948 War, Israel’s army numbered 100,000.

Though the attack on Israel was a surprise one, Israel was surprisingly well equipped at a military level. The country had a navy and many in her army were experienced in combat as a result of World War Two. Israel had also bought three B-17 bombers in America on the black market. In July 1948, these were used to bomb the Egyptian capital, Cairo.

The Arab nations that attacked Israel faced one major problem. There was nothing to co-ordinate their attacks. Each essentially attacked as a separate unit rather than as a combined force. However, the Israeli Army was under one single command structure and this proved to be very important. Israeli victories came on all the war fronts.

The Arab nations involved negotiated their own peace talks – a further sign that they were only united by their desire to attack Israel. Egypt signed a peace settlement in February 1949, and over the next few months Lebanon, Jordan and Syria did the same culminating in peace in July 1949. Iraq simply withdrew her forces but did not sign any peace settlement.

As a result of their military victory, Israel was able to expand the territory given to the state by theUnitedNations. However, this could only be at the expense of the Arab population that lived in these areas.”

The nations of Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, and Iraq were shaken/troubled/moved/stirred at that time. Even the other nations in the Middle East that were not directly involved in the war were perhaps “troubled” in some way or another especially at the time the result of the war came out.

What about the “island” in the verse? Who are the people pointed to by “island?”

The only people who were directly shaken/troubled/moved/stirred by the establishment of the new nation of Israel in 1948 aside from the five nations already mentioned were the Palestinians. Here is a quote from My Jewish Learning:

“Ultimately, the war’s biggest losers were the Palestinians, who were prevented from establishing a state, forced to live under Israeli, Egyptian, or Jordanian rule and, in the case of more than 700,000 refugees, unable to return to their homes. Traditional Zionist accounts of the war claimed that the refugees fled at the order of the Arab leadership, to clear the way for the invading armies. But contemporary historiography paints a more complex picture.

Drawing on government and military archives, Israeli historians such as Benny Morris have concluded that most Palestinians fled during the fighting, afraid of imagined — or occasionally real — atrocities committed by Jewish soldiers, but that some were victims of an ad hoc Israeli policy of deportation. Prevented by the Israeli authorities from returning home after the war and kept in squalid camps in every Arab country except Jordan, these refugees became an important catalyst for the escalation of the Arab-Israeli conflict into the 1950s and beyond.”

The modern day “Palestinians” are not the descendants of the ancient Philistines according to many sources. (Just google who they are.) Even if this is the case, the place of the modern “Palestinians” is what perhaps the “island” in Rev 6:14 is pointing to. The most important place of the Philistines is Philistia or the Philistine Pentapolis which consists of the five cities of Ashkelon, Ashdod, Ekron, Gath, and Gaza. It is located in an expanse of land east of the Mediterranean Sea.

Let’s go back to the Aramaic “island” of Rev 6:14. The inflected word has the definition:

gzrh#2 noun sg. emphatic
gzrh, gzrtˀ (gāzrā, gāzartā) n.f.#2island
island Syr.

“Island” is its meaning but in the OT, “island” could also mean “coast” or “coastland.”

H339  אִי ‘ı̂y ee
From H183; properly a habitable spot (as desirable); dry land, a coast, an island: – country, isle, island.
Total KJV occurrences: 36

The grammatical State of the “mountain” is “absolute” while the “island” is “emphatic” and they are both in the singular (Analysis Page of Rev 6:14). According to Aramaic grammar, nouns are declined as follows:

absolute state:         house

construct state:       house of

emphatic state:       the house

As can be seen, the emphatic state expresses definiteness of a noun, so, the “the island” in the verse points to a definite place or people who are emblematize by it. The second part of Rev 6:14 can be rendered as:

(Rev 6:14b) and every mountain and all the island/coast were shaken/troubled/moved/stirred from their places.

The entire Philistine Pentapolis could be what the “island” or “coastland” is emblematizing.

Here’s an interesting thing. Anciently, the Palestinians were called “Philistines” which mean:

H6430  פּלשׁתּי   pelishtı̂y
BDB Definition:
Philistine = “immigrants
1) an inhabitant of Philistia; descendants of Mizraim who immigrated from Caphtor (Crete?) to the western seacoast of Canaan

According to the Bible and secular sources, the Philistines came from (the island of) Caphtor:

(Jer 47:4 ASV)  because of the day that cometh to destroy all the Philistines, to cut off from Tyre and Sidon every helper that remaineth: for Jehovah will destroy the Philistines, the remnant of the isle of Caphtor.

(Amo 9:7 KJV)  Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD. Have not I brought up Israel out of the land of Egypt? and the Philistines from Caphtor, and the Syrians from Kir?

The word “Caphtor” has the meaning:

H3731  כַּפְתּוֹר    כַּפְתֹּר
kaphtôr    kaphtôr
kaf-tore’, kaf-tore’
Apparently the same as H3730; Caphtor (that is, a wreath shaped island), the original seat of the Philistines: – Caphtor.

Now, read a quote from National Geographic magazine published July 27, 2017 about the possible descendants of the ancient Philistines:

“More than 90 percent of the genetic ancestry of modern Lebanese is derived from ancient Canaanites, according to a paper published today in the American Journal of Human Genetics.

Researchers supported by The Wellcome Trust were able to sequence the Canaanite genome from the remains of five individuals buried in the ancient port city of Sidon (modern Saïda, Lebanon) around 3,700 years ago. The results were compared against the DNA of 99 modern-day Lebanese residents.”


The Kings, Great Men, Captains of Thousands…

(Rev 6:15 KJV)  And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
(Rev 6:16 KJV)  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

These people(s) are most probably what comprise the “beast” with ten kings including their armies, business persons, ordinary, and hired people. They are mentioned at the “gatherings of nations” in:

(Rev 19:18 KJV)  That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

The Great Day of His/Their Wrath

Is the Great Day of his/their Wrath the Day of the Lord?

Let’ discuss first the Great Day of his/their Wrath.

In the next chapter of Revelation which is the continuation of the 6th Seal. It can be inferred that the executioners of the “Wrath of God” is being held up until the servants of God have been marked on their foreheads with the Seal of God.

According to the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, the “Great Day of his/their Wrath” has come even before the sealing of God’s servants had started.

Let’s now discuss the Day of the Lord.

It is said that the coming of the Day of the Lord is synonymous with the coming of the Lord. The coming of the Lord is when the 7th Trumpet is about to be sounded (Mat 24:30-31, 1Thess 4:16), that is the time when the 6th Bowl of the Wrath of God had been poured out (Rev 16:12-16).

These things are telling that the Great Day of his/their Wrath is not the Day of the Lord. Their beginnings are obviously not the same but it’s very likely that the ending part of the Day of his/their Wrath overlaps with the starting part of the Day of the Lord.

An English time phrase like “day of wrath” or “day of his wrath” does NOT ALWAYS point to the Day of the Lord like in the passage below:

(Lam 2:1 KJV)  How hath the Lord covered the daughter of Zion with a cloud in his anger, and cast down from heaven unto the earth the beauty of Israel, and remembered not his footstool in the day of his anger!

(Lam 2:21 KJV)  The young and the old lie on the ground in the streets: my virgins and my young men are fallen by the sword; thou hast slain them in the day of thine anger; thou hast killed, and not pitied.

(Lam 2:22 KJV)  Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the day of the LORD’S anger none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed.

These passages are all referring to the time of Nebuchadnezzar.

Let’s go back to Rev 6:15-17. The “kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man” are portrayed to be “in the know” that the “Day of his/their Wrath” has already arrived but none of us knows whether or not they are really portraying the real situation. It seems that, somehow, they are correct because in the very next chapter which is still part of the 6th Seal, it is written:

Rev 7:1-3 KJV
(1)  And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
(2)  And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
(3)  Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

The four angels who are understood to be the symbolic executioners of the Wrath of God are shown to be holding the four winds of the earth and seemingly ready or poised to hurt the earth, sea, and trees but were only prevented in doing so, until the servants of God are sealed.

It can be inferred from the sequence of “pictures” portrayed from Rev 6:15 to Rev 7:1 that the “kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man” are not aware of the upcoming sealing of God’s servants and of the time needed to accomplish it before God’s wrath will be poured out.

If we will look at the BFBS/UBS Peshitta text, Dutch Peshitta translation, Afrikaans Peshitta translation, and Crawford codex, we will see that there is a part in Rev 6:16-17 of the Greek based English Bibles that is not present in the Aramaic renderings. Here’s the Greek based English rendering of the passage:

(Rev 6:16 KJV)  And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
(Rev 6:17 KJV)  For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Below is the Aramaic rendering:

(Rev 6:16 DPT)  And they said to the mountains and the rocks: “Fall upon us and hide us from the sight of the lamb
(Rev 6:17 DPT)  For the great day of his wrath has come! Who can hold on?”

The red lettered words in the Greek based English rendering of the passage are not present in the Aramaic based rendering. ALSO, In the Aramaic, what is being portrayed as has already come is only the “DAY of his/their wrath,” not the “wrath” itself. At this point in time, if “day” is meant to be the “Day of the Lord,“  wouldn’t it be in contradiction of:

(Mat 24:36 KJV)  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Aren’t symbols and personifications within the Bible included in Mat 24:36 above? The Day of his/their Wrath can’t be the Day of the Lord. There might be parts of them that overlap but they are different and distinct from each other. The Lord Yeshua will come as a thief AFTER the 6th Bowl of the wrath of God had been poured out as was mentioned earlier. The coming of the Lord can’t be a cue event with which the “kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man” could base their assumption that the Day of the Lord has already arrived in Rev 6:15-17 because the sealing of the 144,000 has not even started at that time.

Who Can Stand?

At the time just after WW2, the only nation on the whole planet that was already in possession of nuclear weapons was the USA. No nation could stand against her in an all-out war. And she is basically a Christian nation.

At the time when the modern day nation of Israel was born in 1948, who could challenge her in the Middle East?

Hurt Not the Earth, Sea, or Trees Until…

Rev 7:1-3 KJV
(1)  And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
(2)  And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
(3)  Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

It is portrayed here that the four angels are ready and poised to hurt the earth, sea, and trees. If not prevented, they could have hurt them because they were given authority or POWER to do it.

The Christian nation of USA was also given power (nuclear arms) before WW2 ended and it was the reason the war ended earlier than without it. After the war, the USA was the most powerful nation in the world. God could have used her to execute his wrath but his servants must be sealed first.

The Sealing

This sealing is a spiritual aspect; invisible to historians. Even though the completion of the sealing was heard by John within the 6th Seal itself, it is very plausible that the sealing overlaps with some of the Trumpets because that takes time BUT NOT until the time of the 5th Trumpet which contains the verse that says:

(Rev 9:4 KJV)  And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

It is understood that the sealing of God’s servants is already complete at this time.

The Great Multitude

The depiction of the multitude is also spiritual in aspect. What is important to us in relation to what is being discussed here is its time position with respect to the GT.

(Rev 7:14 KJV)  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

It is implied in the verse that they are very near from the GT, and that means the time setting of the vision has gone back from that of the completion of the Sealing if it really overlaps with some of the Trumpets.

(Rev 7:15 KJV)  a) Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: b) and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

The ‘a’ part can’t be literal. The servants of God will reign with the Lord Yeshua at his coming on Earth at least for a thousand years. The ‘a’ part of the verse could be saying that the servants of God who have “washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” live day and night in the “presence of God,” that is, being always obedient and servile to Him.

If the ‘b’ part is literal, it is future from the time setting of the Great Multitude. If spiritual, it could mean that God will be in their hearts.

(Rev 7:16 KJV)  They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
(Rev 7:17 KJV)  For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

The passage above speaks about future then.

The 6th Seal ends with its time setting just like with the time when it started – just after the GT.

There was Silence in Heaven…

(Rev 8:1 KJV)  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

The Aramaic word for “silence” can also mean “veil.”

$tq noun sg. emphatic
štq, štqˀ (šṯeq, šeṯqā) n.m. silence
1 silence Syr, Man.
2 metaph.: veil Syr.

In the OT, a veil in the head or face could be a sign of mourning as in:

(2Sa 15:30 KJV)  And David went up by the ascent of mount Olivet, and wept as he went up, and had his head covered, and he went barefoot: and all the people that was with him covered every man his head, and they went up, weeping as they went up.

(2Sa 19:1 LITV)  And it was announced to Joab, Behold, the king is weeping and mourning over Absalom.
(2Sa 19:4 LITV)  And the king had covered his face. Yea, the king cried with a loud voice, My son Absalom! Absalom my son, my son!

If applied after WW2, “veil” as mourning would be very appropriate for the victims of the Holocaust and the other servants of God killed in the war. (Note: The Aramaic word for “heaven” is in the plural form.)

In the Jewish tradition, mourning for the dead is divided into several stages or periods.

Periods of Mourning

While shiva is a very specific period of mourning, there are stages before and after shiva that have particular significance. In fact, shiva is merely one of many defined periods of grieving within Judaism. Below is a list of the others, each of which is a milestone for a mourner who is grieving the loss of a loved one.

The period between death and burial. The mourner during this period is called the ‘onen.’ Before commercial burials, the mourner was fulfilling the needs of the deceased in preparation for burial and therefore was exempt from other religious duties such as morning and evening prayers and putting on tefillin (scrolls containing verses from the Torah).

This is the Hebrew word for mourning, which consists of three periods: shiva, sheloshim, and the year of mourning.

The traditional seven-day period of mourning, following the burial, when mourners stay at home and receive guests to offer them comfort and participate in daily religious services.

The 30-day mourning period after the burial and including the first seven days of shiva. It is observed by the immediate family and is designed to allow the mourner to get over the shock of the death. The mourners return to work after the first seven days, but other restrictions remain, such as refraining from attending weddings, dances or parties.

Year of Mourning
When the mourner is mourning a parent, the observances held in sheloshim are extended for one year from the day of burial.

The yearly anniversary of a death, which is commemorated with the lighting of a candle that burns for 24 hours and the recitation of the Kaddish prayer.”

Of all the stages of mourning mentioned above, only the 7-day period is what the author can find in the Bible.

Gen 50:8-10 KJV
(8)  And all the house of Joseph, and his brethren, and his father’s house: only their little ones, and their flocks, and their herds, they left in the land of Goshen.
(9)  And there went up with him both chariots and horsemen: and it was a very great company.
(10)  And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation: and he made a mourning for his father seven days.

1Sa 31:12-13 KJV
(12)  All the valiant men arose, and went all night, and took the body of Saul and the bodies of his sons from the wall of Bethshan, and came to Jabesh, and burnt them there.(13)  And they took their bones, and buried them under a tree at Jabesh, and fasted seven days.

A quote from Albert Barnes about the 7-day period:

They fasted seven days – In imitation of the mourning for Jacob (marginal reference). They would give full honor to Saul though he was fallen.”

Another quote from Matthew Poole:

“To testify their sorrow for the public loss of Saul, and of the people of God; and to entreat God’s favour to prevent the utter extinction of his people. But you must not understand this word of fasting strictly, as if they eat nothing for seven whole days; but in a more large and general sense, as it is used both in sacred and profane writers; that they did eat but little, and that seldom, and that but mean food, and drunk only water for that time.”

…For About Half an Hour

(Rev 8:1 KJV)  And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

In Bible prophecies concerning duration of time, the 360-day period is the most used and referenced time frame. If we are also going to use it in determining the actual duration of the Biblical “half an hour,” the computation would be similar to:

360 days / 24 = 15 days = 1 hour

15 days / 2 = 7.5 days = half an hour

7.5 days is the actual duration of time the “half an hour” is representing. Now, isn’t the word “about” in the verse when used to express time means that it could be exact or just near the exact time indicated? John did not heard the time duration, it seems that he felt or experienced it. The Aramaic word “about” in the verse has the definition:

)yk p01 = )yk p –> hyk p
hyk (hayḵ/hēḵ/ˀaḵ) prep. like
like Palm, JLAtg, PTA, CPA, Sam, Syr, JBAmb, LJLA, JudSyr–(a) as is appropriate for Syr–(b) according to Syr–(c) ܐܝܟ ܙܢܐ ܕ‏ just as‏ Syr.

That’s it! The 7-day period of mourning is very close to the actual duration of “half an hour.” If this 7-day period is converted to years, a year for a day, that would span the years from 1945 to 1952.

The 1st Trumpet

The author doesn’t know the metaphorical meaning of “voices,” “lightning,” and “thunders” at the start of the Trumpets (Rev 8:5) but let’s continue with the 1st Trumpet.

(Rev 8:7 KJV)  The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.

Each of the three figures of destruction, hail, fire, and blood has more than one possible meaning. What event or series of events after WW2 had taken place in which the three metaphors of destruction were all fulfilled? If we will look at the 2nd Trumpet, it seems, as for the author, that the “burning mountain” is in the stage of “in the making” at the time of this writing (Sep, 2017), so, the 1st Trumpet could have happened between WW2 and now.

Since WW2, there were several great events that had occurred; here are some of them:

  • Korean War
  • Cold War
  • Communist Takeover in China (The Great Leap Forward)
  • Vietnam War
  • Six Day War
  • The Arab-Israeli War of 1973

The scale and intensity of destruction and famine together with the number of people killed would make the Communist takeover in China the most appropriate event that the 1st Trumpet could be portraying.

There might be some readers who might think or say that China is not included in Bible Prophecies but maybe, these same persons or several of them will believe that the Two Myriads of Myriads horsemen are composed of Chinese troops which the author of this article does not believe. (Read the topic: The Two Myriads of Myriads Troops in the article: Revelation And Its Mysteries. ) Let’s continue with the discussion.

“Hail” as destruction:

(Psa 78:47 KJV)  He destroyed their vines with hail, and their sycomore trees with frost.

(Exo 9:24-26 LITV
(24)  And there was hail, and fire flashing in the midst of the hail, very heavy, which never had been in all the land of Egypt since it became a nation.
(25)  And the hail struck in all the land of Egypt, all that was in the field, from men and to livestock. And the hail struck every plant of the field, and it broke in pieces every tree of the field.
(26)  Only in the land of Goshen, where the sons of Israel lived, there was no hail.

Quote from Wikipedia:

“The Great Leap also led to the greatest destruction of real estate in human history, outstripping any of the bombing campaigns from World War II.[102] Approximately 30 to 40 percent of all houses were turned to rubble.[103] Frank Dikötter states that “homes were pulled down to make fertilizer, to build canteens, to relocate villagers, to straighten roads, to make place for a better future beckoning ahead or simply to punish their owners.”[102]

Approximately 30 to 40 percent of all houses were turned to rubble? That could account for the phrase  “and a third part of the earth was burned up” which is present in the Aramaic rendering of Rev 8:7 but not in the Greek based Bible.

“Fire” as famine:

(Eze 5:1 KJV)  And thou, son of man, take thee a sharp knife, take thee a barber’s razor, and cause itto pass upon thine head and upon thy beard: then take thee balances to weigh, and divide the hair.
(Eze 5:2 KJV)  Thou shalt burn with fire a third part in the midst of the city, when the days of the siege are fulfilled: and thou shalt take a third part, and smite about it with a knife: and a third part thou shalt scatter in the wind; and I will draw out a sword after them.

(Eze 5:12 KJV)  A third part of thee shall die with the pestilence, and with famine shall they be consumed in the midst of thee: and a third part shall fall by the sword round about thee; and I will scatter a third part into all the winds, and I will draw out a sword after them.

Look at the correlations between the two verses above according to the color of the texts. “Fire” may be understood as famine. Read also Joel 1:16-20.

A quote from Wikipedia:

“The Three Years of Great Chinese Famine (simplified Chinese: 三年大饥荒; traditional Chinese: 三年大饑荒; pinyinSānnián dà jīhuāng), referred to by the Communist Party of China as the Three Years of Natural Disasters (simplified Chinese: 三年自然灾害; traditional Chinese: 三年自然災害; pinyinSānnián zìrán zāihài), the Three Years of Difficulty (simplified Chinese: 三年困难时期; traditional Chinese: 三年困難時期; pinyinSānnián kùnnán shíqī) or Great Leap Forward Famine, was a period in the People’s Republic of China between the years 1959 and 1961 characterized by widespread famine. Drought, poor weather, and the policies of ruler Mao Zedong contributed to the famine,[citation needed] although the relative weights of the contributions are disputed due to the Great Leap Forward.

According to government statistics, there were 15 million excess deaths in this period. However, the Chinese government at this time was taken over by market reformers who were strongly opposed to the Great Leap Forward.[2] Unofficial estimates vary, but scholars have estimated the number of famine victims to be between 20 and 43 million.[3] Historian Frank Dikötter, having been granted special access to Chinese archival materials, estimates that there were at least 45 million premature deaths from 1958 to 1962, although far from all these deaths came about as a result of starvation.[4][5]

Chinese journalist Yang Jisheng concluded there were 36 million deaths due to starvation, while another 40 million others failed to be born, so that “China’s total population loss during the Great Famine then comes to 76 million.”[6] However, some scholars argue that the 40 million people who “failed to be born” should not actually be counted, since they never actually existed in the first place, except as pure statistical speculation on paper. The term “Three Bitter Years” is often used by Chinese peasants to refer to this period.[7]

“Blood” as death:

(Num 35:33 KJV)  So ye shall not pollute the land wherein ye are: for blood it defileth the land: and the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it.

(Eze 5:17 KJV)  So will I send upon you famine and evil beasts, and they shall bereave thee; and pestilence and blood shall pass through thee; and I will bring the sword upon thee. I the LORD have spoken it.

The number of deaths from famine speaks for itself.

Another quote from Wikipedia:

“Deaths by violence[edit]

Not all deaths during the Great Leap were from starvation. Frank Dikötter estimates that at least 2.5 million people were beaten or tortured to death and 1 to 3 million committed suicide.[100][46] He provides some illustrative examples. In Xinyang, where over a million died in 1960, 6–7 percent (around 67,000) of these were beaten to death by the militias. In Daoxian county, 10 percent of those who died had been “buried alive, clubbed to death or otherwise killed by party members and their militia.” In Shimencounty, around 13,500 died in 1960, of these 12 percent were “beaten or driven to their deaths.”[101] In accounts documented by Yang Jisheng,[35][42] people were beaten or killed for rebelling against the government, reporting the real harvest numbers, for sounding alarm, for refusing to hand over what little food they had left, for trying to flee the famine area, for begging food or as little as stealing scraps or angering officials.”

From the number of deaths caused by the famine, it can be deduced that all the peasants or ordinary people in the Mainland China were affected by the famine. They were (all) burnt up like grass.

Isa 40:6-8 KJV
(6)  The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:
(7)  The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.
(8)  The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Concerning the “trees” in Rev 8:7, the author doesn’t know for sure what group of people they represent. They could be one of the following:

1) Communist officials of China

Read Judges Chapter 9.

2) Local and foreign servants of God

Psa 1:1-3 ESV
(1)  Blessed is the man who walks not in the counsel of the wicked, nor stands in the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of scoffers;
(2)  but his delight is in the law of the LORD, and on his law he meditates day and night.
(3)  He is like a tree planted by streams of water that yields its fruit in its season, and its leaf does not wither. In all that he does, he prospers.

Either of the two groups of people is meant as “trees” in the verse, there is no way for us to know the correct number of those “burnt up” or affected by the famine. We cannot compute “the third of the trees.” It is more likely that the 1st group is what is meant by the “trees” because the “grass” points to a class of people of the land, so, the “trees” could also be pointing to another class of people of the land.


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The Great Tribulation (GT)

NOTE: Please bear with the poor English of the author and be it known that this article may expand or change in form in the future.

Most Christians believe that the Great Tribulation (GT) will occur in the near future. The time of the GT is what will be explained in this article which is part of the bigger article: The Olivet Prophecy: Sword of the Lord.

(Mat 24:21 KJV)  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

This verse is from the Olivet Discourse of the Lord Yeshua. In the earlier part of the same chapter, it is written:

Mat 24:7-8 KJV

(7) For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.(8) All these are the beginning of sorrows.

The Aramaic word for “sorrows” in v8 has this definition:

labor pains Qum, JLAtg, CPA, Syr. –(a) fig. Syr.
2 (magic) a type of demon JBAmb.

It is expected from the last verse above that events in v7 will continue and intensify up to the days of the Great Tribulation (GT). As “labor pains,” it is also indicating that “pains” occur NOT in one continuous time. At the time that the abomination of desolation can already be seen standing up, the days of the GT had already started or was about to start:

Mat 24:20-21 KJV
(20) But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
(21) For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

The versions of Etheridge and Lamsa which are translated from the Aramaic are similar to KJV in regard to the start of the GT. Those same days end just before the “darkening:”

(Mat 24:29 KJV) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

What specific ‘darkening” and “shaking of heavens” is meant here? Here’s a passage from the 6th Seal:

Rev 7:13-14 KJV
(13) And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
(14) And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Looking backward from Rev 7:14, the nearest “darkening” of heavenly hosts occurs at the beginning of the 6th Seal itself. This could be what is meant in the Olivet Prophecy.

The immediate preceding seal from this particular darkening is the 5th Seal. There are no signs of GT here. It seems that it’s the aftermath of the GT the seal is telling. If we will look from the 1st Seal up to the 4th Seal, we will see that the 4th Seal has the most and greatest causes of distress in all of them. On the other hand, if we will closely examine the 5th Seal, we will see that it has no “actual” event that happens on its time, that is, between the 4th and the 6th Seals! The 5th Seal is telling of events that are past and future then but no event(s) at its present time. Why would the souls be told to wait for events that are future then if those events are to happen on that same seal (except that it would be told later that they happened in that same seal)?

As I see it, the immediate “actual” event that follows after the 4th Seal (Great Tribulation) is the darkening of heavenly bodies of the 6th Seal. John saw the 5th Seal between the 4th and 6th seals but it has no “actual” events. In actuality, it spans no time frame. This seal contains the prayers of those slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held, and they are being consoled, maybe because what they had gone through was a great ordeal.

How about the passage below?

Joe 2:6-10 ESV
(6) Before them peoples are in anguish; all faces grow pale.
(7) Like warriors they charge; like soldiers they scale the wall. They march each on his way; they do not swerve from their paths.
(8) They do not jostle one another; each marches in his path; they burst through the weapons and are not halted.
(9) They leap upon the city, they run upon the walls, they climb up into the houses, they enter through the windows like a thief.
(10) The earth quakes before them; the heavens trembleThe sun and the moon are darkened, and the stars withdraw their shining.

Here is the same passage again but with a different version:

Joe 2:6-10 YLT
(6) From its face pained are peoples, All faces have gathered paleness.
(7) As mighty ones they run, As men of war they go up a wall, And each in his own ways they do go, And they embarrass not their paths.
(8) And each his brother they press not, Each in his way they go on, If by the missile they fall, they are not cut off.
(9) In the city they run to and fro, On the wall they run, Into houses they go up by the windows, They go in as a thief.
(10) At their face trembled hath the earthShaken have the heavensSun and moon have been black, And stars have gathered up their shining.

It can be seen from this passage (two versions) that verses 6 and 10 make (more) sense in relation to other verses if they will be looked upon in the perspective of time. The word “face” in both verses can also mean “before” or “beforetime” as in Deu 2:12, Jos 11:10, 1Sa 9:9, and Isa 41:26.

H6440 BDB Definition:
1) face
1a) face, faces
1b) presence, person
1c) face (of seraphim or cherubim)
1d) face (of animals)
1e) face, surface (of ground)
1f) as adverb of loc/temp
1f1) before and behind, toward, in front of, forward, formerly, from beforetimebefore
1g) with preposition
1g1) in front of, before, to the front of, in the presence of, in the face of, at the face or front of, from the presence of, from before, from before the face of

Together, verses 6 and 10 support what is said in Mat 24:29 – pain or tribulation (4th Seal) then darkening with earthquakes and shaking of heavens (6th Seal).

What about Joel 3:15?

Joe 3:9-16 YLT
(9) Proclaim ye this among nations, Sanctify a war, stir up the mighty ones, Come nigh, come up, let all the men of war.
(10) Beat your ploughshares to swords, And your pruning-hooks to javelins, Let the weak say, ‘I am mighty.’
(11) Haste, and come in, all ye nations round, And be gathered together, Thither cause to come down, O Jehovah, Thy mighty ones.
(12) Wake and come up let the nations unto the valley of Jehoshaphat, For there I sit to judge all the nations around.
(13) Send ye forth a sickle, For ripened hath harvest, Come in, come down, for filled hath been the press, Overflowed hath wine-presses, For great is their wickedness.
(14) Multitudes, multitudes are in the valley of decision, For near is the day of Jehovah in the valley of decision.
(15) Sun and moon have been black, And stars have gathered up their shining.
(16) And Jehovah from Zion doth roar, And from Jerusalem giveth forth His voice, And shaken have the heavens and earth, And Jehovah is a refuge to his people, And a stronghold to sons of Israel.

The word “gathered” in v15 can also mean “withdrawn” according to Brown-Driver-Briggs’ Hebrew Definitions.

It is clear in this translation that “darkening” and “shaking” of heavens and earth happened earlier. It is more probable than not that this is of the 6th Seal again.

What about the “darkening” in the 4th Trumpet?

At the time of the 4th Trumpet, GT is already past because the 6th Seal which portrays the multitudes who came out of the GT comes first before the Trumpets.

What about the “darkness, gloom, clouds, and thick darkness” in the Day of the Lord?

Zep 1:14-16 ESV
(14)  The great day of the LORD is near, near and hastening fast; the sound of the day of the LORD is bitter; the mighty man cries aloud there.
(15)  A day of wrath is that day, a day of distress and anguish, a day of ruin and devastation, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
(16)  a day of trumpet blast and battle cry against the fortified cities and against the lofty battlements.

“Distress” and “anguish” are also mentioned in the above passage and they are mentioned first, then, the “darkness, gloom, clouds, and thick darkness.” A Bible reader might think that “distress and anguish” in the passage are the “Great Tribulation” which precedes the darkening of the sun, moon, and stars as prophesied by the Lord in Mat 24:29. But according to the 6th Seal, the particular “darkening of heavenly hosts” that comes immediately after the GT is:

Rev 6:12-13 KJV
(12)  And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;(13)  And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

This is the nearest darkening of heavenly hosts from the passage:

(Rev 7:14 KJV)  And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

The particular darkening of heavenly hosts in Rev 6:12-13, according to Joel, will come:

(Joe 2:31 KJV)  The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

That’s it. So, the “distress and anguish” and the “darkness, gloom, clouds, and thick darkness” in Zeph 1:15 which will occur at the Day of the Lord are NOT the Great Tribulation and the darkening of heavenly hosts described in Mat 24:29! Moreover, the “darkness, gloom, clouds, and thick darkness” during the Day of the Lord seems to be denoting NOT a time AFTER a tribulation, read the passage below:

Amo 5:18-20 KJV
(18)  Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
(19)  As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
(20)  Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

It can be seen from the passage above that the “darkness” or “very dark darkness” during the Day of the Lord is itself denoting tribulation. The GT should have ended at the time the sun and the moon are darkened as described in Mat 24:29.  Again, the “distress and anguish” and the “darkness, gloom, clouds, and thick darkness” in Zeph 1:15 are NOT the Great Tribulation and the darkening of heavenly hosts in Mat 24:29. The GT occurs BEFORE the Day of the Lord!

Let’s go back to “labor pains” of the Olivet Prophecy.

History tells that things of Mat 24:7-8 intensified when fearful things and terrors came.

 The wars of conquests by Islamic armies AFTER their early expansion.

 The terrors and killings that resulted from refusal to convert to Islam. At first, only the polytheistic peoples were forced to convert but there were times that “People of the Book” were also forced to convert.

 The war of conquests by Genghis Khan in the 13th century AD and of the other Mongolian leaders after him. Here’s a quote from…t-genghis-khan:

“While it’s impossible to know for sure how many people perished during the Mongol conquests, many historians put the number at somewhere around 40 million. Censuses from the Middle Ages show that the population of China plummeted by tens of millions during the Khan’s lifetime, and scholars estimate that he may have killed a full three-fourths of modern-day Iran’s population during his war with the Khwarezmid Empire. All told, the Mongols’ attacks may have reduced the entire world population by as much as 11 percent.”


1783–84 Chalisa India 11 million
1789–92 Doji bara India 11 million
1810, 1811, 1846, and 1849 China 45 million.
1850–73 As a result of imperialism, the Opium Wars and the Taiping Rebellion, drought, and famine, the population of China dropped by more than 60 million
There are more. See List of famines

 The Black Death (Bubonic Plague) of the 14th century.

– 1918–1920 Influenza Pandemic (more deaths than World War 1)…c-of-1918-1919
See List of epidemics

 World War 1

 World War 2

The Day of Jacob’s Trouble

Jer 30:1-3 KJV

(1) The word that came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying,
(2) Thus speaketh the LORD God of Israel, saying, Write thee all the words that I have spoken unto thee in a book.
(3) For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.

Jeremiah opens the chapter by telling that word came to him from the Lord. He relates in v2 how God told him to write in a book what God had spoken to him (earlier). He continues (v3) to tell the other things that God has told him which are about the restoration of Israel and Judah to the land that was given to their ancestors. These things together with many events that God told to Jeremiah in the other parts of chapter 30 and 31 are widely believe to happen at the Day of the Lord.

(Jer 30:4 KJV) And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.

Jeremiah states in this verse that what is to follow is what God has spoken to him and told him to write in a book.

Jer 30:5-7 KJV
(5) For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace
(6) Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
(7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

Clearly, the passage above is about the day of Jacob’s trouble.

Jer 30:8-9 KJV
(8) For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
(9) But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.

Verse 8 tells when the yoke will be broken and when the bonds will be burst which will mean that strangers will no more serve themselves of him. Let’s understand first the “yoke.”

(Jer 27:2 KJV) Thus saith the LORD to me; Make thee bonds and yokes, and put them upon thy neck,

This yoke was broken by Hananiah in Jer 28:10-11. Hananiah died in that same year (Jer 28:17). It is God who decides when this symbolic yoke will be broken off in Jeremiah’s neck.

Going back to Jer 30:8, there will be a problem understanding this verse if we will treat it as part of what was spoken and written and that is because of the two possessive pronouns “thy” and the last pronoun “him.” There are two possibilities here:

  1. If the two “thy” are “Jacob’s,” then who is “him” that will serve no more?
  2. If the two “thy” are “Jeremiah’s,” then the “him” can be “of Jacob” which v9 confirms.

The 2nd proposition makes sense and that would mean, in this verse 8, God is talking NOT to Jacob but to Jeremiah who was given the sign of the yoke in chapter 27. This in turn is telling that verse 8 is not part of what was spoken by God and written by Jeremiah.

Which day does “In that day” (v8) refer to? Surely, it can refer to the day of the return of Israel and Judah to their land in v3 – in the Day of the Lord. “In that day” referring also to day of Jacob’s trouble depends on whether or not Jacob’s trouble really occurs after the restoration. But if it really occurs at that time, why present it in this way? There is something that needs to be considered.

We have seen the problem in understanding v8 because of the grammatical persons of the pronouns used in the verse. But that was already resolved. The last pronoun in the 3rd person is understood to be Jacob. In v9, the 3rd person (plural) pronoun refers to Israel and Judah or their people. Take note, in these two verses, God is speaking of their restoration or the other events at the time of their restoration. Let’s continue with the other verses but let’s not include the 1st pronouns referring to God in our study.

(Jer 30:10 KJV) Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

The pronouns in the 1st part of the verse changed to 2nd person from 3rd person in v8-9. This part is speaking of the saving of Jacob from his trouble (see again last clause of v7).

In the 2nd part of the verse, all the pronouns are in their 3rd person again. This part is speaking again of Jacob’s restoration.

NOTE well, the transition from the 2nd to 3rd person of pronouns in this verse:

I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity

There is a time distance of at least a generation FROM the time of the saving of Jacob from afar (his trouble) TO the time of the saving of his seed from the land of their captivity (Zech 14?). It can be more!!! The quote, as for me, is not a futuristic idiom depicting the same time or event and that is because of the switching of pronoun persons and what their contexts say.

Jer 30:11-17 KJV
(11) For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.
(12) For thus saith the LORD, Thy bruise is incurable, and thy wound is grievous.
(13) There is none to plead thy cause, that thou mayest be bound up: thou hast no healing medicines.
(14) All thy lovers have forgotten thee; they seek thee not; for I have wounded thee with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of thine iniquity; because thy sins were increased.
(15) Why criest thou for thine affliction? thy sorrow is incurable for the multitude of thine iniquity: because thy sins were increased, I have done these things unto thee.
(16) Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.
(17) For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.

The pronouns switched back to 2nd person in v11 up to v17. Again, in this passage, it is talking about the saving of Jacob (from his trouble), about his chastisement, and about the fate of those who scattered, devoured, and plundered them. Look at v17, if Jacob’s Trouble happens AFTER his restoration to the land of his ancestors, would he be called an OUTCAST?

Another hint can be found in v14. The enemy or cruel one can only be Satan who is portrayed as the Red Dragon in Revelation 12.

Note that the (future then) thread of time in the passage above progresses as can be seen in v16 and first part of v17 but Jacob’s trouble itself is obviously past in those verses.

Jer 30:18-21 KJV
(18) Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will bring again the captivity of Jacob’s tents, and have mercy on his dwelling places; and the city shall be builded upon her own heap, and the palace shall remain after the manner thereof.
(19) And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.
(20) Their children also shall be as aforetime, and their congregation shall be established before me, and I will punish all that oppress them.
(21) And their nobles shall be of themselves, and their governor shall proceed from the midst of them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach unto me: for who is this that engaged his heart to approach unto me? saith the LORD.

Pronouns in this passage are in their 3rd person. Once again, it is speaking about the restoration of Jacob. It can be seen in v19 to v20 that this passage’s (future) thread of time also progresses, then in v21 it returns … to meet the time thread that originated from Jacob’s trouble?

(Jer 30:22 KJV) And ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

Yes, but up to the 1st verse of the next chapter, their time threads are shown to be separate.

(Jer 31:1 KJV) At the same time, saith the LORD, will I be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.

Let’s go back to what was spoken (earlier) and written because there are other hints in there about the time of its occurrence:

Jer 30:4-7 KJV
(4) And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
(5) For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.(6) Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
(7) Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob’s trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.

Definition of “trembling” in v5:

H2731 חֲרָדָה chărâdâh khar-aw-daw’
Feminine of H2730; fear, anxiety: – care, X exceedingly, fear, quaking, trembling.

Definition of “fear” in v5:

H6343 פַּחַד pachad pakh’-ad
From H6342; a (sudden) alarm (properly the object feared, by implication the feeling): – dread (-ful), fear, (thing) great [fear, -ly feared], terror.

Remember “fearful things and terrors” from Luke 21:11? In here, they were heard.

woman in travail” in v6: the “labor pains” in Mat 24:8

paleness” in v6: the color of the horse in the 4th Seal

“that day is great, so that none is like it” in v7; yes there is none like it:

(Dan 12:1 KJV)  And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

(Mat 24:21 KJV)  For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

The GT is the great wrath of the Devil:

(Rev 12:12 KJV)  Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The Devil is having a great wrath, aware that he has but a short time. He has a short time maybe because:

(Mat 24:22 KJV)  And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

Jacob’s trouble is just a part of the GT or the wrath of the Devil. It’s the last part of his wrath according to Revelation 12. Here are some verses about the Dragon (Satan or Devil) and the Woman of Revelation 12:

Rev 12:15-16 KJV
(15) And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
(16) And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

The flood that came out of the mouth of the Dragon could very well be the armies of Nazi Germany and its ally countries in Europe during World War 2. They almost swept off all of Europe at that time. When only Britain was left fighting the Germans, Hitler turned his attention to the east – the Soviet Union. He disregarded his country’s non-aggression pact with the Soviets and invaded their country. The vastness of the land of the Soviet Union swallowed up much of the invading countries’ armies easing up the pressure on Great Britain. This is how the Woman of Revelation 12 was helped by the symbolic earth in verse 16.

(Rev 12:17 KJV) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

After much of the armies of the Axis Powers in Europe was swallowed up by the land of the Soviet Union and while both sides were fighting each other, the Dragon was wroth with the Woman. He went away and made war with the other seed or children of the Woman. The other area of the globe that a “major” war had broke out after the invasion of the Soviet Union was in the Asia – Pacific region. On December 7, 1941, more than six months after the Soviet Union was invaded, Japan attacked and bombed Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, and the Dragon’s war on God’s other people started. By this war, we can know who the other seed of the Woman are.

The Holocaust was part of World War 2.

And if those days were not shortened, we would not be alive today. Nuclear weapons were first used in World War 2.

Let’s go back to Jeremiah 30. “Jacob’s trouble” was INSERTED (by God’s order) at the start of the word that came to Jeremiah. (It can even be considered to be before the “word” came to Jeremiah in v1 because what was to be written was already spoken to him.) It is from that part of the wrath of the Devil (Jacob’s trouble) that the time thread of 2nd person pronouns came.

Whereas the time thread of 3rd person pronouns came as a result of the (Great) Wrath of God.

Jer 30:23-24 ASV
(23) Behold, the tempest of Jehovah, even his wrath, is gone forth, a sweeping tempest: it shall burst upon the head of the wicked.
(24) The fierce anger of Jehovah shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall understand it.

The Great Wrath of the Devil and the Great Wrath of God don’t overlap each other. According to the 6th Seal:

Rev 6:16-17 KJV
(16) And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
(17) For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The great day of the wrath has come but the “actual” Great Wrath of God has not yet come; it is just looming. Continuing to the next part of the 6th Seal:

Rev 7:1-3 Murdock
(1) And after these things I saw four angels, who stood on the four corners of the earth; and they held the four winds of the earth, so that the wind blew not on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on the trees.
(2) And I saw another angel, and he came up from the rising of the sun; and he had the seal of the living God; and he called out, with a loud voice, to the four angels to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, saying:
(3) Hurt ye not the earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, until we shall have sealed the servants of our God upon their foreheads.

Now, in Rev 7:13-14, also a part of the 6th Seal, it is said:

Rev 7:13-14 Murdock
(13) And one of the Elders turned, and said to me: These who are clothed in white robes, who are they, and whence came they?
(14) And I said to him: My lord, thou knowest. And he said to me: These are they who came from great affliction; and they have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

GT or the Devil’s wrath is already past at this point in time and even at the start of the 6th Seal; when the sun became black, like sackcloth of hair; and the whole moon became like blood, and the stars of heaven fell on the earth, as a fig-tree casteth its unripe figs, when it is shaken by a strong wind. This darkening is the darkening in Mat 24:29 which immediately follows the GT (4th Seal). Obviously, there are many events from the 6th Seal up to the coming of the Lord just before the 7th Trumpet is to be sounded that are not included in:

Mat 24:29-31 KJV
(29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
(31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Are we going to ignore these Biblical facts?

Another thing, the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man of Rev 6:15 said in v17 that “the great day of his wrath is come.” That “day” cannot mean the Day of the Lord because:

(Mat 24:36 KJV)  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

Zechariah 14

Zec 14:1-2 KJV

(1) Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
(2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

The captivity of Jerusalem in this chapter of Zechariah is not during the GT. It is during God’s Wrath – at the time of the 6th Bowl (Rev 16:16). Doesn’t this particular captivity of Jerusalem precede the “restoration” in Jeremiah chapter 30?

After this captivity, false prophets will be like those in Zech 13:2-6 and not like those in Mat 24:23-26 who will appear after the GT. The word of God about shepherds who destroy and scatter His sheep can be found in Jer 23:1-4.

Let’s go back to “labor pains again.”

As far as I know, there is no passage in the Bible that explicitly tells how long the GT would be, but the “beginning” of labor pains described in Mat 24:6-7 gives us an idea of how long it would be. GT is understood to be inside this “labor pains” – in the intensified part of it and this part can logically be expected to happen as the continuation of the “beginning” in a matter of years or decades but not more than a thousand years. That is signified by the warning of our Lord Yeshua to urgently flee when they see the abomination of desolation standing up. Here’s an interesting thing: from 685 AD up to 1945 are 1260 years.

There’s another article which proves further the time of occurrence of the GT. Here’s the link: The Aftermath of The Great Tribulation (GT)

It would be also of big help in understanding the time of the beginning of the GT if the reader would also read the said article: The Olivet Prophecy: Sword of the Lord.

If the reader has more questions, maybe the articles Revelation and its Mysteries and Revelation 12 can help.

What is Coming is Not the Great Tribulation, It’s the Great Wrath of God!!!

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April 28, 2017

Table of Sections of Revelation

Filed under: Reference — Mr. Bebe @ 5:08 pm





The Son of Man and His Messages to the Seven Churches


It could be from chapter 1:9 to 3:22

SUBSECTIONS The Vision of the Son of Man (ch 1:9-20)
The Messages to the Seven Angels of the Seven Churches (ch 2:1 to 3:22)

(Rev 3:21 NIV) To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Bridging Word(s): The Father’s Throne


(Rev 4:2 NIV) At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it.


The Vision Center and the Main timeline Reference


chapter 4:1 to 11:19

SUBSECTIONS The Vision of Heavenly Throne of God
The Seven Seals, The Seven Trumpets, The Seven Thunders and The Little Scroll, The Two Witnesses
SECTION 2 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 11:19 NIV) Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

Bridging Word(s): Covenant

SECTION 3 BRIDGING VERSE The Woman is the symbol of the Covenant People!
THEME The Struggle between the Woman and the Dragon
RANGE chapter 12:1 to 13:8
SUBSECTIONS The Woman and the Dragon (ch 12:1-17)
The First Beast (ch 13:1-10)
The Second Beast (ch 13:11-18)
SECTION 3 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 13:18 NIV) This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.

Bridging Word(s): Six or Sixth

SECTION 4 BRIDGING VERSE (Revelation 14:1 – 5) The Sixth Seal – Look for the explanation of The Fourth Section or Hidden Seals Section
THEME The Redeemed People of God and the Punishments of Evil Peoples
RANGE chapter 14:1 to 16:21
SUBSECTIONS The Lamb and the 144,000 (ch 14:1-5)
The Messages of the Three Angels (ch 14:6-13)
The Two Harvests (ch 14:14-20)
The Angels with the Seven Last Plagues (ch 15:1-8)
The Bowls of God’s Wrath (ch 16:1-21)
SECTION 4 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 16:19 NIV) The great city split into three parts, and the cities of the nations collapsed. God remembered Babylon the Great and gave her the cup filled with the wine of the fury of his wrath.

Bridging Word(s): Babylon the Great

SECTION 5 BRIDGING VERSE The Great Whore is Babylon the Great.
THEME Babylon the Great and the Bride of the Lamb
RANGE chapter 17:1 to 19:10
SUBSECTIONS The Great Whore and the Beast (ch 17:1-18)
The Fall of Babylon the Great (ch 18:1-24)
The Rejoicing in Heaven (ch 19:1-10)
SECTION 5 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 19:10 NIV) At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”

Bridging Word(s): Yeshua or Jesus

SECTION 6 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 19:11 KJV) And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. (Yeshua or Jesus is the Rider)
THEME Wars and Judgments
RANGE chapter 19:11 to 20:15
SUBSECTIONS The Rider on the White Horse (ch 19:11-16)
The Defeat of the Beast and Its Armies (ch 19:17-21)
The Thousand Years (ch 20:1-6)
The Doom of Satan (ch 20:7-10)
The Great White Throne Judgment (ch 20:11-15)
SECTION 6 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 20:14 NIV) Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.

Bridging Word(s): “Death”, “passed away” and “was no longer

SECTION 7 BRIDGING VERSE (Rev 21:1 NIV) Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
THEME Renewal of All Things/Utopia
RANGE chapter 21:1 up to (maybe) 22:7
SUBSECTIONS The New Heavens and the New Earth (ch 21:1-8)
The Vision of The New Jerusalem (The Bride) (ch 21:9-27)
The River of Life (ch 22:1 and maybe up verse 5 or 6 or 7)


Epilogue, Benediction, and Warning

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